Australian tourist shot in Mendoza

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Old Apr 28th, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Australian tourist shot in Mendoza

I hate to post this, but here it is:

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1685984-m...aza-san-martin

When we have an English version, I'll post it.
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Old Apr 28th, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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Here is an English version: http://www.argentinaindependent.com/...ed-in-mendoza/

We'll be following the story as it develops.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 12:08 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. Very sad to read of this horrifying incident. I had read a number of articles recently saying that Mendoza was becoming more dangerous. Seems like they were correct. Could it be that Argentinas deteriorating economic situation is pushing more people into a life of crime? I hope not.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 01:38 AM
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I think it is a one time incident and people are maybe over reacting on this specific situation? It is of course a terrible accident but it can happen anywhere. So I don't think you should be frightened to go there...
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 04:01 AM
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http://www.buenosairesherald.com/art...ead-in-mendoza
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 04:29 AM
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"people are maybe over reacting" in what way are people over reacting? It can of course happen anywhere and does but this is not the first time something like this has happened in Mendoza in recent times and I would hardly describe it as an "accident"
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 05:15 AM
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How awful. How sad for the victim, his companions, his family.....and for Argentina.

I hope the police can track down and prosecute the evil perpetrators of this heinous crime.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 05:52 AM
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More on the subject:

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1686194-l...sta-en-mendoza

The victim was Nicholas Heyward, 32 years old and from New Zealand.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 06:45 AM
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Really sorry to read about this!

From New Zealand: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11246324

"this is not the first time something like this has happened in Mendoza in recent times" - worrying. Resisting does seem to up the ante.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 06:58 AM
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Resisting may work sometimes, particularly if you are young and strong, but it certainly is not the prudent thing to do.
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Old Apr 29th, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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These things can happen so fast and the natural reaction often, is to resist. Sadly, as Avrooster points out, it is not always the sensible thing to do but reflexes do tend to take over in such circumstances. Fight or flight as they say. If someone has a gun, don't resist.
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Old Apr 30th, 2014 | 03:28 AM
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I was saddened to read about this in the news. We all know this type of thing can happen anywhere, however, I always appreciate hearing about it so that I can be a smarter traveler.

The following article has more specifics about the victim and a quote from local law enforcement about dangers in Mendoza:


"A police officer in Mendoza told Fairfax Media that the attack was an isolated incident, but that there were areas of the city that tourists should steer clear of - including parts of General San Martin Park where Mr Heyward died."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/familys-...#ixzz30MryUtTM

Rest in peace Mr. Hayward. My condolences to his loved ones. He sounded like a lovely person.

I hope this doesn't hurt tourism in Mendoza. Since this type of incident appears to be relatively rare, the media hasn't jumped on it too much so hopefully people will keep it in perspective.
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Old May 1st, 2014 | 02:07 AM
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Drugs is an important component so I do not think that resisting or not makes any differencie.
The main difference is how drugged the crooks are.
It sadness me even to talk about it,
Tourists as well as locals have to be very alert, and a little lucky too.
Also the other component from my point of view is when goverments instead of allowing the creation of wealth and opening opportunity and honest jobs for the people under their government, choose to tax and tax again, to regulate,to increase burocracy, to give more food stamps and entitlements,
More people working for the government paid by the few who work.
Investment does not like to be taxed and regulated at naseum , the result is more poverty and more poverty seems to create more desesperation.
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Old May 2nd, 2014 | 12:11 AM
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"Drugs is an important component so I do not think that resisting or not makes any differencie." (sic) Component of what?? Of course resisting increases the probability of serious injury or death. Just ask any law enforcement operative or self defence what is the right thing to do. Any with half a brain will tell you to avoid confrontation where ever possible and not to resist. Resisting simply increases the time you are with your attacker and thus the probability of serious injury. If attackers are high on drugs, then all the more reason to drop everything and get the hell out of the situation.

As for the rest of the above post then words fail me. It is just so wrong on so many different levels.
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Old May 2nd, 2014 | 03:14 AM
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The news reports above indicate the victim was carrying an expensive camera.

This was posted by yours truly over two years ago:

http://www.fodors.com/community/sout...ble-camera.cfm
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Old Jun 14th, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Frankly any person can guess that resisting makes thing worse if you are dealing with a drugged
assailant , what I meant , based in many real cases, is that in today's World people are often shot even if they do Not resist, even if they do Not move a finger.
This is a fact.
Ask any local that reads the news.

As avrooster said , resisting in Not a prudent thing to do, and I agree, but Not resisting does Not Warranty you will Not be shot or hurt
Obviously we do Not agree on anything , well I respect your point of view.
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