AI in Puerto Vallarta

Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 07:04 AM
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The name for the coast from PV to Manzanillo is Costa Alegre
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 08:20 AM
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Why go anywhere if all you're going to do is eat every meal at the hotel so, as some of you folks say, you have all this time to R&R or have fun (usual means getting smashed)laying around the pool. Hell I don't have to go to overpriced Mexico to lay around a pool & get smashed, I can do that at home & much cheaper.I go places to see the attractions a certain place may have to offer & I can still relax. As far as buffet food goes, in most places (99.9%) it sucks. I enjoy good food. I don't eat just to sustain myself - what kind of enjoyment is that. Most people who like buffet's are just thrilled by "all that food" but it's all quantity not quality. Let's face it, to each their own, some people go places & bring something of that place back gaining some knowledge while others go places & gain absolutely nothing out of it except to say how much they drank, danced, hit on the opposite sex or maybe same sex, etc. - what a waste of time & money.
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 09:33 AM
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Have spent half my life in the US, I have indeed noticed the idea of equating 'a good meal' with the amount of food, rather than the quality. No wonder they have an obesity problem.
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 10:23 AM
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For Bburpi. Who is "they". This is a not only a U.S. problem but a worldwide problem in countries where the citizens have adquate supplies of food products & a government that makes sure the citizens have the ability to obtain that food. The few third world countries that have adequate supplies of food products such as Mexico could give a fig for their own citizens nourishment, hence overweight folks at the top levels of a corrupt government & Mexican folks at the bottom, skinny, dirty, & begging on the streets for their next meal. All the while those with money to throw at mega expensive hotels stay inside to shield or maybe ignore the problem on the streets of Mexico. The place is absolutely depressing. The money that goes into those places in Mexico does not filter down very far. If you are going to go there don't stay in the AI but go downtown & spend some of your loot there so the good local folks can also make a little better living.
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 11:06 AM
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Thank you to Bill Simpson for two intelligent posts from a realistic perspective. (Although I don't agree about "absolutely depressing".)

I DO completely agree about spending foreign dollars in a way that directly benefits the local people and economy (and that ain't by staying at an All Inclusive in The Marina or even worse the Four Seasons resort!).
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 01:13 PM
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To Bill and Clarisa--It sounds like US citizens should not go outside the US for vacation. Based on your comments we should stay here and give the money to the poor people in our own country by supporting our own economy. In case you hadn't noticed the poverty level and amount of poor children in the US are not statistics to be proud of. When planning a vacation it's not a personal responsibility to wonder how the money you spend is going to affect the city or country you visit. Give me a break!
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 01:19 PM
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Bill,
Why are you so jaded? I do not "lay around and get wasted" nor do I gorge on "all that food" at the buffets when I stay at an AI. I also can't say that I've witnessed what you're referring to--what you think goes on at AIs. I'm curious if you've actually been to an AI to see what it's all about. Have you?
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 01:57 PM
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For Marie: I beg to differ. Yes, I do feel it IS your personal responsibility as a human living on this planet to be aware of how "the money you spend is going to affect the city or country you visit". Any other attitude is living with your head in the sand.

Lisa: You are so busy defending All Inclusives and attacking posters who voice opposing opinions. Might you stop for just a moment to consider that some of the points raised on this thread might be valid and worth reconsideration of your attitude?
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 03:45 PM
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For Marie & Lisa. Yes we have poverty in the U.S. but we also have programs that attempt to reach out to those folks in need. We have handouts galore. Countries such as Mexico keep the wages down for many of their country man & could give a hoot about the poverty in the street. If you can find a better country to live in than the U.S.A., nobody is holding you back - go for it!

No, I have not stayed in an AI. Why would I want to. If I go somewhere I want to see the attractions of that area not be pampered in an AI. I have been to Mexico and I have seen & heard what goes on & AIs, are not excluded from the mix. I have also seen the condition of many of the people of that country and for anyone not to be affected by the poverty in the street has to be pretty cold, in my opinion. Maybe you try in some small way to help and maybe you don't lay around & get wasted - not everyone does but a good percentage do. Some do mix with the locals and visit attractions & gain some knowledge of the history around them, but, again, many do not. A AI usually means that most of the time is spent in that facility, otherwise why pay that cost - what's the point.
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 05:50 PM
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I find it odd that people who are concerned about the welfare of Mexican's would be so negative to AI's. Firstly, they are employing many people. The wages are not good, but, IMHO the tips must be OK - I don't think AI people are cheap...just need to relax on a holiday. I, and others I know tip very well at an AI and would encourage everyone to do so. Secondly, any tourism for the region is good. If Mexico didn't offer all-inclusives, I, and many others, would spend our dollars elseware. Where I live (Canada) we welcome all tourists ...just come and spend your money honey!!!! The Mexican Riveriara (yes, that term is used alot in Canada - especially with the cruise industry) is fantastic - because it offers choice. The Mayan Riveriara wouldn't be popular if it wasn't for the AI's. I would love to hear from someone working at an AI what they think...is a job a job (as it is here - many people just glad to work) or is an AI job that much inferior? Now, if they could tackle that food poisoning thing..I got sick from seafood last time I visited PV!
 
Old Aug 22nd, 2002, 07:55 PM
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Kristen, I almost hesitate to say this because of all the bickering about AI's. We went to a new hotel, and yes it was the Riu which is an AI. The food was great,the people were very nice( yes, we did tip!) the beach is gorgeous, we saw dolphns in the bay. I have never been so relaxed in all of my life. Away from the hotels and marina, very quiet, even though it is a large hotel. I will always look for an AI, it is the way to go for us. I know there will be many who disagree, but I just wanted you to get another point of view. We flew out of DFW and our trip cost us a total of$429.00 each for 4 days and 3 nights, All Inclusive, even a ride from the airport to our hotel was included. I don't know where you will fly out of, but you cannot beat a deal like the one we got! Congratulations to you both and Good Luck!
 
Old Aug 23rd, 2002, 04:00 AM
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Kristen:
We have done an AI in Nuevo Vallarta and a non AI in Puerto Vallarta. My advice to you is to ignore the bickering that has erupted on this thread and decide what would be best for you--after all, it's your honeymoon.
If your taste runs to spending more time exploring and dining in different places, don't do an AI. If you don't want to have to think about a thing and simply relax, an AI might be it.
As other posters have mentioned, PV has a wealth of restaurants. Even when we stayed at an AI, we went to PV several times to eat. We didn't feel that we were wasting money, it was just what we wanted to. For us, the best part of being at an AI was being able to have what you wanted, when you wanted without having to think about the cost. While we can afford to travel, we can do it only because we save for it and give up other things. I guess it's just my nature, but I'm usually keeping track in my head of what we're spending. An AI does relieve that.
 
Old Aug 23rd, 2002, 04:17 PM
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To those who are on this board for the purpose of slamming every thought that doesn't agree with theirs, why don't you get a job on the editorial board of your local paper. Most folks on this site are looking for ideas to help them enjoy their vacation and to spend their money as wisely. If you don't like the free exchange of info about traveling, then why get on this board. By the way, our group is going to the Riviera Maya area near the town of Playa del Carmen, southwest of Cancun. Also, as Bill the nitwit alluded to, I have never been smashed, I don't overeat and I've been married for 30+ years so his innuendos about sex and all inclusives is as ludicrous as he is.
 
Old Aug 26th, 2002, 09:26 AM
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In reply to Kellyanne above...

Giving an opposing opinion (i.e., I don't patronize AI resorts for many reasons and posted so) does not equal "slamming every thought" that does not agree with my own. That IS the free exchange of information.

When you post a question you have to expect to receive personal *opinions* as well as facts from the experiences of others.
 
Old Aug 30th, 2002, 09:54 AM
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To Kristin/original poster~

Was this thread helpful to you? I post and read frequently on several travel bulletin boards. Would be curious to hear what you decided to do for your honeymoon? Best wishes.
 
Old Aug 30th, 2002, 11:21 AM
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Message for Bill
Re your comment- "if you can find a better country than the USA to live in - go for it".
Just want to point out that there are other countries that have the same standard of living as the US AND have universal health care for ALL its citizens. Canada? Some western European countries do not have the same poverty levels as the U.S.
As for the A/I debate. Having done both - people should do what ever works for them and their lifestyle. A/I's are great if you have kids, but if you're are on your own P.V. has so many great restaurants to try.
 
Old Aug 30th, 2002, 02:43 PM
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For Annismarinski. If you are living in the U.S.A. & you feel other countries are better, like I said, go for it! Sure Canada has health care for all its citizens but how good is it. It seems that an awful lot of Canadians are going south for health care - I wonder why. As for Western Europe, sure the standard of living seems as good as the U.S.A., however in many of those countries the government dicates whether you go to school or not,what you will learn when you go to school, what kind of job you will work at, what doctor you will see, etc, etc. There's an element I call freedom & the U.S.A. has it. The others just think they do.
 
Old Sep 2nd, 2002, 01:42 AM
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What is AI? Are you incontinent adults? I would not recomment Mexico if you are as the toilets are very bad and few have toilet paper.
 
Old Sep 3rd, 2002, 03:57 PM
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... don't swim with captive dolphins, support the LOCAL economy by staying in family-run hotels not foreign-owned resorts, avoid All-Inclusives, tip your room maid. Geez how hard is it to carry thru with a *teeny-tiny* bit of social awareness in your travels?
 
Old Sep 4th, 2002, 11:05 AM
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Kristen,
I have stayed at Crown Paradise in PV twice and have been to many resorts in PV both AI and not. I have also stayed at resorts both AI and not in Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Antigua and St. Lucia. If you want to go AI in PV, Crown Paradise is the best IMHO. Unless you are used to ultra luxurious resorts, you'll love it. (And I don't work for CP!!!)
 

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