Would you like to comment on the London riots on Saturday, 8/6/11
Aug 8th, 2011, 12:58 PM
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Who is a more anti-social element Rupert Murdoch and his cronies or the thugs in Tottenham - the former were allowed to wantonly vbreak the law for years - the latter riot for a few days and it's like the worst crime ever? Or is it only because the Tottenham creeps were poor and the Murdoch creeps were rich and paying just about everyone off?
Looting is looting no matter who does it or how they do it.
Looting is looting no matter who does it or how they do it.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:06 PM
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We don't need a league table of relative naughtiness for corupt corporations vs the disenfranchised underclasses - it won't remotely help the situation. Nor does one excuse the other.
However, I am a bit perturbed by the fact that I find James Murdoch strangely attractive....
However, I am a bit perturbed by the fact that I find James Murdoch strangely attractive....
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:14 PM
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a scientologist, wrapped up in complicated sociology theory, might too easily overlook the explanation that these WERE simply crimes perpetrated by vandals and scumbags - talking about the Murdochs I guess but only these were whte collar crimes, aided and abetteed by high up government and police officials and thus let go on
the first rock in Tottenham though probably brought casternation, condemation, anger, etc right away - both are wrong but why is one quasi-supported by the government and police establishmen - Tottenham thugs will have no famous well-paid barristers to defend them for a crime IMO far less serious than the Murdochs, who are still at large - the creeps in Tottenham will rot in jails for a long time IME before even being brought up to trial. And this discrimination is one reason the locals are rioting IMO.
the first rock in Tottenham though probably brought casternation, condemation, anger, etc right away - both are wrong but why is one quasi-supported by the government and police establishmen - Tottenham thugs will have no famous well-paid barristers to defend them for a crime IMO far less serious than the Murdochs, who are still at large - the creeps in Tottenham will rot in jails for a long time IME before even being brought up to trial. And this discrimination is one reason the locals are rioting IMO.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:14 PM
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a scientologist, wrapped up in complicated sociology theory, might too easily overlook the explanation that these WERE simply crimes perpetrated by vandals and scumbags - talking about the Murdochs I guess but only these were whte collar crimes, aided and abetteed by high up government and police officials and thus let go on
the first rock in Tottenham though probably brought casternation, condemation, anger, etc right away - both are wrong but why is one quasi-supported by the government and police establishmen - Tottenham thugs will have no famous well-paid barristers to defend them for a crime IMO far less serious than the Murdochs, who are still at large - the creeps in Tottenham will rot in jails for a long time IME before even being brought up to trial. And this discrimination is one reason the locals are rioting IMO.
the first rock in Tottenham though probably brought casternation, condemation, anger, etc right away - both are wrong but why is one quasi-supported by the government and police establishmen - Tottenham thugs will have no famous well-paid barristers to defend them for a crime IMO far less serious than the Murdochs, who are still at large - the creeps in Tottenham will rot in jails for a long time IME before even being brought up to trial. And this discrimination is one reason the locals are rioting IMO.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:22 PM
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Well at risk of starting another argument with PQ - I am sitting locked in my house while rioters destroy the livelihood and buildings in my town centre a block away. I cant leave my house, the pubs are all being destroyed, the stores have all been looted, police cars are burning on the square.
I personally feel more impacted by the madness on my doorsteps than a few hacked voicemails, no matter how their privacy was violated. I consider this a pretty darn serious situation that should be punishable harshly.
I personally feel more impacted by the madness on my doorsteps than a few hacked voicemails, no matter how their privacy was violated. I consider this a pretty darn serious situation that should be punishable harshly.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:40 PM
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In Tottenham at the weekend the police were reluctant to take too firm an approach in case it exacerbated things ( having been accused of being too heavy handed in similar incidents in the past).
I think that softly softly approach has probably been knocked on the head by now....
I think that softly softly approach has probably been knocked on the head by now....
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:42 PM
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Its absolutely insane. They need to shut down all transit and bring in the army and retake control. I have friends all over London and its the same thing. Someone needs to take back control. Its unbelievable.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:52 PM
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Weirdly the Thames Clipper IS still running! But nothing else is. Buses, rail station, DLR are all shut up tight. Oh and now there is a fire in the town square. Sorry - this is WAY worse than hacking a voicemail.
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:54 PM
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"...And several buildings were on fire in Croydon, including a family business that had been in the town for 100 years which was completely destroyed.
"The Reeves furniture shop was engulfed with flames, with nearby homes evacuated.
"In Birmingham, several premises were attacked, shop windows smashed and property stolen in various locations. West Midlands Police said officers had made nine arrests..."
"The Reeves furniture shop was engulfed with flames, with nearby homes evacuated.
"In Birmingham, several premises were attacked, shop windows smashed and property stolen in various locations. West Midlands Police said officers had made nine arrests..."
Aug 8th, 2011, 01:56 PM
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"Its absolutely insane. They need to shut down all transit and bring in the army and retake control."
Brilliant, most of the problems are local and you want to close down the whole of London Transport - FYI bus routes and stations in affected areas ARE stopped and closed
As for bringing the army in - what do you expect them to do, start shooting?
Brilliant, most of the problems are local and you want to close down the whole of London Transport - FYI bus routes and stations in affected areas ARE stopped and closed
As for bringing the army in - what do you expect them to do, start shooting?
