KT, I do know what you mean.

I think wanderful might have meant to post on the other active art museum thread. But I also liked the Villa Doria Pamphili very much.

I think that if Derrida had written about Velasquez, then V. would be pomo. I didn't know about Sartre/Tintoretto -- this has me all curious now.

I say boo to Duccio too -- actually had a blog entry here -- and I prefer Giotto as well. The contrast is fairly obvious:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C34B135AA

Don't know that Villa Doria but have read about it. Rome is obviously due for a revisit.

WillTravel and KT,

Sorry, I was kidding. Thanks, WillTravel, for starting this thread. Lots of interesting museums/cities I haven't visited. Now I'm thinking, "Must I go to Munich?"

and 111op: okay, I agree re: Derrida. And I guess I will defer re: Foucault. But I say that with my eyebrow raised.

I'm obviously not the expert -- so no need to defer, Leely.

I guess Foucault is usually regarded as a structuralist, but I suppose part of his work is probably post-structuralist. I usually just think of the progression as

Claude Levi-Strauss -> Foucault -> Derrida,

so I'd put the break with the prior tradition with Derrida.

But then I don't have a degree in the humanities. By the way, according to a symposium in the Univ. of Chicago a year or two year, "Theory is dead," so we don't have to talk about it anymore.

"Theory is dead." Does that mean that Foucault's pendulum has swung? Tee-hee. (Hey, if you can't make bad jokes with a degree in the humanities, what can you do with it?)

Well it's a different Foucault --

http://www.arts-et-metiers.net/magic...ra&flash=f

But is this pendulum always swinging? Isn't it supposed to prove that the Earth is in motion? (Actually I don't know any physics either -- so hope I'm not making a fool of myself.)

The pendulum is still swinging....

Oh, KT, for shame! Funny, though.

(And as a kinda snobby former humanities person, I say, "*Of course* Univ. Chicago would have that symposium--they never really got it anyway." Just kidding, Chicago alums.)

Since you're going to be in Madrid, if you're big Picasso fans (which I am), I would highly recommend stopping in Malaga and going to the Museo Picasso and Casa de Picasso. I believe you can get very good fares from Madrid to Malaga.

A few other modern art sites I haven't seen mentioned are the Marc Chagall Musuem in Nice, Modern Art Museum in Nice, Matisse Museum in Nice, glass museum in Biot, Musee Pantion Picasso in Vallauris (step into a chapel entirely painted by Picasso), and the Miro Foundation in Barcelona. Also, Dali's Museum outside of Barcelena.

On second thought, if you're daughter loves modern art, maybe Nice should be included as the other city pick.

There is website of National Galeri in Prague: http://www.ngprague.cz/main.php?language=en#

Too much to read through...

Has anyone mentioned the Reina Sofia in Madrid. I think the Prado is known for its collection of classical art, whereas the Reina Sofia has great modern art, inlcuding a wonderful collection of cubist painters and of course Picasso's Guernica. It also has a tremendous collection of contemporary Spanish art.

Then there's Espace Dali in Place du Tertre, near Montmartre in Paris. Is that modern art? Dunno. but its a wonderful little PoMo, multisensory experience.

WillTravel, if you haven't seen it already, I thought you'd enjoy the NYT's article about the young art scene in Berlin:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z394250BA

I read that article last night. I found it very interesting.

Wasn't around in NYC in the 80s -- but find the parallel between Berlin and the then NYC that's brought up many times (including that article) quite fascinating.

mvor, thanks for the article. I hadn't seen it. I think my daughter will be interested.

As far as contemporary art, Berlin has the Hamburger Bahnhof museum.
http://www.hamburgerbahnhof.de/eng/conte/

Hamburger Bahnhof is mentioned in the Times article whose link mvor gave, by the way.

The Paul Klee Museum in Berne. Also includes works by Giacometti.