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Old Mar 7th, 2005, 05:01 PM
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If you go to Scandinavia you may not find a Fodorite but you can find a number of renowned Modern Art Museums in great buildings.

In no particular order, there is the Kiasma in Helsinski by architect Steven Holl.

http://www.kiasma.fi/www/viewresourc...n&preview=

You can find one in Stockholm:
http://www.destination-stockholm.com...ghts/index.htm

In Oslo you will the Munch Museum and Vigelund Park and this:
http://www.af-moma.no/?&language=en

If you run out of recommendations, try this for a extensive list of museums:

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/ARTHLinks6.html
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Isn't there also a Gallery of Modern Art in Glasgow?
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If she's set on Amsterdam, she might enjoy the Cobra Museum: http://www.cobra-museum.nl (this movement was instrumental in the development of modern art in the Netherlands).

If you go to the Tate Modern (one of my faves) be sure to visit their 7th floor restaurant for good food at decent prices w/a great view: http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/information.htm.

The Tate has a Frida Kahlo exhibit scheduled for this summer (the first UK show devoted to her). If you haven't seen the movie Frida yet, I'd definitely rent that in advance.

Lastly, the Courtauld (http://www.courtauld.ac.uk/gallery/forthcoming.html) will have an exhibit on Gabriele Münter: The Search for Expression 1906-1917 (late June-early Sept.). She was a founder of the Munich New Artists’ Association and the avant-garde group, Der Blaue Reiter/TheBlue Rider). She is often better known as Kandinsky's lover and student but was an exceptional artist in her own right.

A great site to learn more about specific art movements or artists is www.the-artists.org. If she has a favourite artist it might help to pinpoint "the" city. Otherwise, you have a great list so far.

Good luck; I'm eager to read your trip report (your last w/your son was terrific).
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To Willtravel, if you visit Amsterdam in off season, it isn't really more expensive than Berlin. I visited Berlin for 8 nights last December, stayed in Amsterdam 5 nights this past January, the average cost wasn't much different.

Certainly Berlin has much more exciting modern architecture; but these new projects in/around KNSM island are very interesting also.

The temporary Stedelijk Museum in East Dock near Central Station has very limited exhibition. The building of NEMO across is quite interesting.

Den Haag (50 minutes train from AMS) has excellent madern art collections in Gemeentemuseum- a short tram ride from Central Station.

Kroller-Muller Musuem (train from AMS to Apeldoorn, then change to bus) has very good collections ( many Van Gogh's paintings too), plus one of the best outdoor sculpture parks in Europe.

In Berlin, Hamburg Bahnhof Museum has some of the most avant-garde exhibitions. The building is a converted train station, with seem endless/bewildering corridors.

MEMO, Upper Belvedere are both good. The modern architecture of MEMO is quite interesting.

Trade-Fair Palace in Prague is less visited, but with good collection of impressionists/Klimt.

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I know it's already been mentioned, but when you're in London, don't miss the Saatchi Gallery (next to the London Eye). It represents the real cutting edge of the modern art world today - as many sharks and cows sliced in half as you could ever want to see. A temple to "Brit Art".

There's also frequently temporary exhibitions in lesser known galleries. Get a copy of Time Out when you arrive for a complete guide - your daughter may find it fun to get off the main toruist drag and see what 'living' artists are up to.

And the Tate Modern is, of course, compulsory.
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Old Mar 8th, 2005, 03:24 AM
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As well as Tate Modern, Tate Britain also has a lot of modern art - certainly fitting your definition of modern, but in fact most of the last few contemporary art exhibits I've wanted to see (Tracy Emin, Michael Landy, Paula Rego, Richard Long) have all been at Tate Britain not Tate Modern.

See London's 'Time Out' for listings of many other public & private galleries, artist spaces, etc. The Contemporary Art Society runs trips on the last Saturday of each month around some of the more obscure galleries, artist spaces & studios, but I think you have to be a member.

I am very fond of the Scottish National Portrait Gallery & its sister Dean Gallery across the road but they aren't that big so not generally worth a special trip. Yes, there is also the Gallery of Modern Art in Glasgow. Both cities also have quite a number of other public/private galleries/artist spaces etc, some of which are listed in, er, 'The List' (our version of 'Time Out').
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WillTravel,
Holland is right now the star of modern design. We like to walk around the Jordaan 'hood where there are many young artisans doing some great work, your daughter may enjoy this area, too. The up and coming neighborhoood for the locals is the de Pijp, so you may wat to steer her over there, as well.
If you ever bring her to Paris there is this great squat called the Frigo. It is full of artists, many of them with works already in museums and I'd be happy to get you some contact info if she wants to meet the real deal instead of just seeing the stuff on the walls (which ain't half bad).
Check out the Saatchi gallery in London, it is an education, even if you don't appreciate the art.
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Phread, can you tell me where the Frigo is located? I'll be in Paris in May with a friend who is looking for paintings to purchase while we're there.
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Phread, that is excellent info. We may be staying in the Jordaan area so that will work out well if so.
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WillTravel, for a vaguely-defined question, you sure got a lot of answers. Thanks for asking this. The responses are very useful. It's a good post to keep for reference in future planning.
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Saatchi has got rid of the shark, cow & the rest of the 'Brit Art' stuff - it's all painting now, & the current exhibition ('The Triumph of Painting Part 1') hasn't had very good reviews.
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One of the finest and most accessible museums in Rome is the Doria Pamphili. It is small enough to take in during a single visit, has a wonderful audio guide, and includes such treasures as Velasquez’s unforgettable portrait of Pope Innocent X and Caravaggio’s Mary Magdalen. I recommend it highly!
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Okay, I've seen the term "modern art" stretched pretty far, but I don't think it includes the baroque paintings in the Doria Pamphili.
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Maybe Caravaggio can be thought of as the first modernist. I think that I've read this somewhere -- but a better argument can probably be made for Turner.

Michel Foucault apparently wrote an essay on Velasquez's "Las Meninas." So you know, perhaps there can be a case made for Velasquez as well.
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By the way, if you type "first modern painter" into Google, the first link that comes up is a book on Titian.
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This sort of passage is pretty standard with Caravaggio (in conjunction with the exhibition in London):

"Caravaggio was a revolutionary because he applied realism to his art. His painting style becomes even darker in this period. He seems to be able to channel his personal emotions and experience into his work, now this is true of all artists to a certain extent but it is much more direct with Caravaggio and for this reason he is called the first modern artist."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ew/4304765.stm
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I'll go with Giotto being the first modern painter .
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But if Foucault wrote about Velasquez wouldn't that make Velasquez post-modern?

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p.s. I vote for Giotto, too. I love Giotto. Boo Duccio!
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Old Mar 10th, 2005, 12:00 PM
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Oh, you teasers, know what I mean. Not "modern" as in having what we consider a modern sensibility, or as ushering in a modern era or breaking with the past, but "modern" as it is conventionally used to denote periods of art.

I guess Monteverdi was the first modern composer, too.

And the Basilica of Maxentius and Constantine was the first modern building.

And then there's Dante, the first modern poet.
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Foucault had his Velasquez, but Sartre had his Tintoretto first. So there!
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