Trump and our trip to Spain

Aug 14th, 2016, 09:50 AM
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We haven't encountered any ridicule regarding Trump. In fact, no one here in France has brought up American politics with us. It's usually we who bring it up, if it gets brought up at all. And we talk to a lot of people. The worst we've heard so far is "il est fou!" Which of course he is.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 10:30 AM
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The subject of Himself was mentioned to me more than once on my recent UK visit. I suggest, rather than words, cultivating your best eye-roll.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 10:37 AM
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One year I wore a Clinton/Gore button in Spain because I couldn't stand the idea that anyone would think I'd vote for Bush.

When my sister and I were in Garmisch, Germany a few years later, we were sharing a table with two German couples. My sister needled me to ask what these people thought about Bush. The younger couple felt pretty much like we did, but the woman of the older couple didn't directly address our question. Instead she talked about how the Americans sent food and clothing after the war, when they were starving.

I had the same type of experience this June, when a woman began talking to me in the Insurgency museum in Warsaw. I responded that I was an American and didn't speak Polish. She asked if I spoke German, and when I said yes, she told me that after the war, she and her family had to leave Poland because they were German, though she was born in Poland.

She said they were refugees and had only what they could fit in their backpacks, but the Americans sent them big, big packages with food and clothing.

This occurred 70 years ago, but when these people met Americans, this is what they remember.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 11:25 AM
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I agree there is residual good feeling for Americans based on post-WWII decent treatment by the allies.

That adult generation is almost gone and its children with direct memories are closing in on 70.

President Obama's election was a high point for Europeans. I hope it continues past November.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 11:38 AM
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The day of the 08 election, we voted early then flew to Paris. When we landed, there was a large poster congratulating President Obama. Several people we met, when they found out we are Americans, were really eager to talk about the election. I've found they're also eager to talk about our extreme fascination with guns.
Since then, I've often wondered how many Americans are even aware of who the leaders of other countries are.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 12:32 PM
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ann: >>Honestly, in a world where we are all affected by the economic and policies of the main powers, you cannot expect people not to have opinions, <<

Opinions? OK. Ridicule? My response is an unrepentant KMFA.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 01:51 PM
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BTW, IMDonhere, your uncle seemed to change his name, unless Carlos is the english translation of José!

He is transitive gender.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 01:55 PM
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We have a distant cousin who is a member of Opus Dei. And a very old cousin who longs for the days of Franco, but the younger ones are well-informed and much more liberal.

We also have a good friend who is active in Podemos and expect a lot of questions.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 02:37 PM
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<< This occurred 70 years ago, but when these people met Americans, this is what they remember. >>

I fear that this is a big part of the problem. It is quite worrisome if so many people have to reach back 70 years to mention a praiseworthy action by the Americans. In the meantime, there have been Cuba, Chile, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq and quite a few other 'noteworthy' actions that have not all been met with universal approval.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:18 PM
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Just pretend you are Canadian and then they will only ask about Rob. Ford.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:24 PM
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Is he transitional, or is he a verb?
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:24 PM
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I remember during the Iraq war seeing Americans wearing pins with Bush with a slash through it in Europe to let all know they didn't approve.
We have received emails from Canadian friends, first they were joking and then terrified of a Trump Presidency.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:25 PM
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At least Rob Ford is dead.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:41 PM
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"just pretend you are Canadian... Rob Ford"

As a Torontonian who did not vote for that buffoon (may he rest in peace) it was the first thing I thought of when the pundits were discounting Trump.

We exoerienced first hand what can happen when a privileged rich guy taps into the discontent with politicians. We were all pretty much shaking our heads at how it happened.

Unless my history lessons were incorrect, it was the Canadians leading the Allies who liberated Holland.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 03:53 PM
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I ran into two Americans today in a piazza in Senigallia, who used to live in our town. They had returned to the US about five years ago, but now told me that they've returned to Italy for good, because of Donald Trump. I thought it was a bit premature, but maybe they just can't stand his being nominated.

Hardly anyone asks me about Donald Trump. If they do, I tell them he's a cross between Berlusconi and Beppe Grillo.
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Aug 14th, 2016, 05:00 PM
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I lived in Canada for many years and still have family there so not totally lying. I remember my first visit to Munich and they were burning an effigy of George Bush in the Marienplatz.
Trump is known worldwide and people have formed an opinion of him. Most don't like him. I just am going to try and stay out of it with my traveling companions and people where we visit. A big eye roll will be good. My two friends from Indiana get on the Pence roll though. They don't like him is an understatement.
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Aug 15th, 2016, 10:00 AM
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Trump was mentioned on our trip to Spain in July, but it was like those people wanted us to know they were up on Current Events. A roll of the eyes or a gesture signalling nut-job dismissed that topic of conversation.
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