transit time- arrival Paris CDG/T2 & have only 3hrs before flight out of T1
Oct 28th, 2015, 07:35 PM
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transit time- arrival Paris CDG/T2 & have only 3hrs before flight out of T1
Hi guys, I want to thank you in advance for your help. I'm a little embarrassed to say that I'm not an active member, but I find that whenever I need travel advice, Fodors members are the most helpful.
My flight from JFK is scheduled to arrive at Paris/CDG Terminal 2 at 5:45am on a Friday. Do you think I'll have time to take a flight to Rome/FCO from Kuwait Airways that departs from Terminal 1 at 9am?
Kuwait Airways states from their website that from CDG, I should check in 2 hours and 30 minutes before actual time of departure. Now I'm not sure if this is just the time the check in counters will open, or it is actually the cut off time. They say that from New York/JFK is 4 hours! I've flown many international flights out of JFK and never have I encounter a cut off time four hours prior to departure.
Alitalia says 40 minutes for medium haul international flights and Air France also seems to be the same at 40 minutes.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling with check-in luggage. Would the airline have a right to refuse my check in luggage and refuse to let me on if I really don't get there by 6:30am??
Many thanks in advance!!
My flight from JFK is scheduled to arrive at Paris/CDG Terminal 2 at 5:45am on a Friday. Do you think I'll have time to take a flight to Rome/FCO from Kuwait Airways that departs from Terminal 1 at 9am?
Kuwait Airways states from their website that from CDG, I should check in 2 hours and 30 minutes before actual time of departure. Now I'm not sure if this is just the time the check in counters will open, or it is actually the cut off time. They say that from New York/JFK is 4 hours! I've flown many international flights out of JFK and never have I encounter a cut off time four hours prior to departure.
Alitalia says 40 minutes for medium haul international flights and Air France also seems to be the same at 40 minutes.
Unfortunately, I'll be traveling with check-in luggage. Would the airline have a right to refuse my check in luggage and refuse to let me on if I really don't get there by 6:30am??
Many thanks in advance!!
Oct 28th, 2015, 08:02 PM
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No, not super fantastic for Rome, but at the time, it was a good deal for a non-stop flight to CDG, at around $560 USD.
I booked this flight (round trip JFK~CDG) earlier without putting much thought into where I want to go. It is totally my fault. All I know then was that I want to visit Paris and one other city. In retrospect, I should have book an open jaw flight, which is usually what I do. Again, my fault... but now I just want to see if other has a similar experience to share. Thanks.
I booked this flight (round trip JFK~CDG) earlier without putting much thought into where I want to go. It is totally my fault. All I know then was that I want to visit Paris and one other city. In retrospect, I should have book an open jaw flight, which is usually what I do. Again, my fault... but now I just want to see if other has a similar experience to share. Thanks.
Oct 28th, 2015, 08:04 PM
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No, not super fantastic for Rome, but at the time, it was a good deal for a non-stop flight to CDG, at around $560 USD.
I booked this flight (round trip JFK~CDG) earlier without putting much thought into where I want to go. It is totally my fault. All I know then was that I want to visit Paris and one other city. In retrospect, I should have book an open jaw flight, which is usually what I do. Again, my fault... but now I just want to see if other has a similar experience to share. Thanks.
I booked this flight (round trip JFK~CDG) earlier without putting much thought into where I want to go. It is totally my fault. All I know then was that I want to visit Paris and one other city. In retrospect, I should have book an open jaw flight, which is usually what I do. Again, my fault... but now I just want to see if other has a similar experience to share. Thanks.
Oct 28th, 2015, 09:29 PM
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Looks like Kuwait Airways has alliance with only a few airlines. Unless it has luggage transfer agreement with whatever is the carrier you are flying from JFK that you have not posted, and you could obtain the CDG-FCO boarding pass before leaving JFK, you have to handle luggage transfer and securing boarding pass yourself at CDG - an albatross on your neck.
If you cannot make it to their recommended check-in time, they don't necessarily refuse to check-in outright, but the boarding time risk now falls on you. The hard cut-off is enforced at the boarding time.
It was an oversight number one not booking open-jaw at first. However, the oversight number one was compounded by oversight number two - booking additional connection flight that might require your to transfer luggage on your dime in a short interval. Did you have to book such a tight connection for uncoordinated flights? If you had posted here before committing to oversight number two, you would probably have gotten recommendations to minimize your risk.
You choices seem to be:
1. Go with the current arrangement. If it fails, ready to pay $$$$ for a last minutes ticket to/from FCO.
2. Go with the current arrangement. If it fails, damage control your committed expense in Italy and have a ready to execute plan do do a ground only trip in/around France.
3. Book a different flight for CDG-FCO with ample time for you to retrieve luggage and check-in.
4. Change you current flight to an open jaw. You get hit with a change fee plus the difference between your ticket and the new ticket. However, if your Kuwait Airways ticket was a round trip/open jaw to/from Italy back to CDG, your return part gets cancelled if you fail to take the first flight. You have to redo this part also.
I have done uncoordinated flights, but not CDG, but 2 hours in between. However, I have thought much about it before booking the second flight. I only traveled with a carry-on and I had a fall back plan and was willing to abandon the second destination if I missed the plane.
If you cannot make it to their recommended check-in time, they don't necessarily refuse to check-in outright, but the boarding time risk now falls on you. The hard cut-off is enforced at the boarding time.
It was an oversight number one not booking open-jaw at first. However, the oversight number one was compounded by oversight number two - booking additional connection flight that might require your to transfer luggage on your dime in a short interval. Did you have to book such a tight connection for uncoordinated flights? If you had posted here before committing to oversight number two, you would probably have gotten recommendations to minimize your risk.
You choices seem to be:
1. Go with the current arrangement. If it fails, ready to pay $$$$ for a last minutes ticket to/from FCO.
2. Go with the current arrangement. If it fails, damage control your committed expense in Italy and have a ready to execute plan do do a ground only trip in/around France.
3. Book a different flight for CDG-FCO with ample time for you to retrieve luggage and check-in.
4. Change you current flight to an open jaw. You get hit with a change fee plus the difference between your ticket and the new ticket. However, if your Kuwait Airways ticket was a round trip/open jaw to/from Italy back to CDG, your return part gets cancelled if you fail to take the first flight. You have to redo this part also.
I have done uncoordinated flights, but not CDG, but 2 hours in between. However, I have thought much about it before booking the second flight. I only traveled with a carry-on and I had a fall back plan and was willing to abandon the second destination if I missed the plane.
Oct 29th, 2015, 12:43 AM
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Don't know about Kuwait but
- usually for inter Europe flights we consider one hour before depature time.
- I just went with AirChina from CDG to Beijing and they closed the registering one hour before flying time.
not relevant but I use it as exemplative that 2 hours indicated by Kuwait is probably something quite generic in their sales conditions.
Useful advice is given above : call them.
- usually for inter Europe flights we consider one hour before depature time.
- I just went with AirChina from CDG to Beijing and they closed the registering one hour before flying time.
not relevant but I use it as exemplative that 2 hours indicated by Kuwait is probably something quite generic in their sales conditions.
Useful advice is given above : call them.
Oct 29th, 2015, 03:42 AM
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Agree that you need to talk to Kuwait airlines directly. Their rules might be very different from inter-european airlines - as with El Al having much longer check in times due to multiple checks for security reasons - no matter the destinations.
Also, with this itinerary you wold be MUCH better off with carry-on only luggage. CDG can sometimes be horrendous on getting checked luggage (we have at times waited more than an hour when a bunch of places landed at once) so this could really delay your check in.
Also, with this itinerary you wold be MUCH better off with carry-on only luggage. CDG can sometimes be horrendous on getting checked luggage (we have at times waited more than an hour when a bunch of places landed at once) so this could really delay your check in.
Oct 29th, 2015, 04:00 AM
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For an intra-European flight, check-in normally does not close until about 30 minutes before departure time. However, since Rome is not the final destination of the Kuwait Airways flight, there may be different rules.
Oct 29th, 2015, 06:45 AM
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>>Then you should have plenty of time.<< . . . ONLY if your fglight lands on time at CDG.
>>Do you think I'll have time to take a flight to Rome/FCO from Kuwait Airways <<
It isn't clear in your post - have you already booked the Kuwait flight or are you just asking if it is possible?
If not, even if it costs more I'd book an ongoing flight from a partner airline of whichever one you are flying JFK > CDG.
But if you have already booked the flight - it really doesn't matter what we say -- no one knows if you will make it or not. And definitely travel carry-on only.
>>Do you think I'll have time to take a flight to Rome/FCO from Kuwait Airways <<
It isn't clear in your post - have you already booked the Kuwait flight or are you just asking if it is possible?
If not, even if it costs more I'd book an ongoing flight from a partner airline of whichever one you are flying JFK > CDG.
But if you have already booked the flight - it really doesn't matter what we say -- no one knows if you will make it or not. And definitely travel carry-on only.
Oct 29th, 2015, 07:05 AM
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I suspect CDG-FCO on Kuwait Airways is an NOT an inter Schengen flight. I have done something like this.
I had MAD-AMS on KLM, an inter Schengen flight. However, KLM flight was cancelled and Delta put me on a Korean Airline on its way back to Seoul via Amsterdam. I had to go through Schengen exit procedure at MAD and Schengen re-entry at AMS. The passport control guy at AMS was totally puzzled that I was from MAD and entering the Schengen zone. If the Kuwait airline operates like this, the OP has to do Schengen entry upon landing from JFK then immediately do Schegen exit at CDG to board the Kuwait Airways plane.
I had MAD-AMS on KLM, an inter Schengen flight. However, KLM flight was cancelled and Delta put me on a Korean Airline on its way back to Seoul via Amsterdam. I had to go through Schengen exit procedure at MAD and Schengen re-entry at AMS. The passport control guy at AMS was totally puzzled that I was from MAD and entering the Schengen zone. If the Kuwait airline operates like this, the OP has to do Schengen entry upon landing from JFK then immediately do Schegen exit at CDG to board the Kuwait Airways plane.
Oct 29th, 2015, 07:15 AM
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Carry-on only is a useful suggestion. Hope you can manage that.
Changing your main ticket from CDG to FCO is unlikely to be cost effective. It's almost certainly cheaper to buy a new ticket CDG-FCO for a later flight.
I was pricing December flights FCO-CDG and Venice-CDG and FLR (Florence-CDG in the last week. All were under $100 US on Air France.
I eventually chose Florence as our departure point and got a Dec. 8 midday flight (usually the cheapest) through Air France for 49 Euros.
I did some research earlier into CDG-FCO flights and the prices were comparable.
TIP: For the very best price, Check Air France US AND Air France Italy as well as the France site. The pricing varies dramatically!
I bought online from the AF Italy site, with a price denominated in Euros. On a previous research expedition, the prices on the Air France Canada site for the same flight were lower -- this time they were higher.
Changing your main ticket from CDG to FCO is unlikely to be cost effective. It's almost certainly cheaper to buy a new ticket CDG-FCO for a later flight.
I was pricing December flights FCO-CDG and Venice-CDG and FLR (Florence-CDG in the last week. All were under $100 US on Air France.
I eventually chose Florence as our departure point and got a Dec. 8 midday flight (usually the cheapest) through Air France for 49 Euros.
I did some research earlier into CDG-FCO flights and the prices were comparable.
TIP: For the very best price, Check Air France US AND Air France Italy as well as the France site. The pricing varies dramatically!
I bought online from the AF Italy site, with a price denominated in Euros. On a previous research expedition, the prices on the Air France Canada site for the same flight were lower -- this time they were higher.
