lyb

>>After the flight, Thin went to retrieve his Louis Vuitton (soft) luggage in the overhead bin. He "accidentally" dropped the bag on the kid's head.<<

So mature!

JAGIRL

First of all...forgive me if I'm late in noticing this but..."Thingorjus" is a him? (she says in a whisper!)

Second of all...isn't that cough syrup thing child abuse or something? I mean isn't it the equivalent of giving them a glass of brandy?

nessundorma

SAnParis,

I still think you can't impose the "deposit" on your unfortunate seatmates. I would take the child to the lavs and be so bold as to ask those in line for a chance to go first, or ask the flight attendants for assistance in making that happen.

My impression of overseas travelers is that they are very understanding of parents with children -- although I know many people will now chime in with horror stories of being harassed by child-haters. But I travel overseas all the time and most often there are children on my overnight and return flights, and they make noise and cry. I put in my earplugs and people make the best of it. I'd be outraged, honestly, if a parent undid a loaded diaper in my vicinity.

SAnParis

Jag - I guess you are missing the fact that I am enjoying this immensely. My point is, we can't all control, all situations, at all times, you just have to make the best of it. Parenting requires some flexibility that you may otherwise not encounter in life. I encourage it (for nearly) everyone. My feathers remain nicely preened, thank you.

JAGIRL

Amazingly the baby crying thing doesn't bother me.

I remember travelling as a child and having my ears feel as if they were about to explode and just praying for death!
I actually feel so sorry for those crying babes.

JAGIRL

SAn...
<i>I encourage it (for nearly) everyone</i>

You encourage everyone to change their baby's diapers on a plane?

wombat7

&quot;we can't all control, all situations, at all times, you just have to make the best of it&quot;

That is just it - you can't control all situations and we just have to make the best of it

SAnParis

No, parenting....but you knew that already...

SAnParis

BTW - I agree w/the rest of your list...I won't get into the seat hogs &amp; the like. Again, when we travel w/the kids we usually take the bulk head row, so as to bother others as little as possible. No seat backs to kick, no one to watch us change diapers, etc. I'm lucky, both my kids travel well.

JAGIRL

Another one : Don't eat that big bowl of baked beans right before that 8 hour flight. :-&amp;

Powell

Please do not push your seat all the way back pinning the person behind you in a kind of vise.

Coach seat space is limited as it is. The clowns who need horizontal space should fly Virgin American and sleep in one of those large drawers like Miss Trixie did in the &quot;Confederacy of the Dunces&quot;.

nessundorma

Actually, I think parenting just brings out the worst in some people, who start feeling entitled to behave in utterly ME FIRST ways because &quot;I HAVE A KID.&quot; Well, so does 99 percent of the rest of the world and they &quot;make the best of it&quot; too -- meaning, they still manage to demonstrate some awareness of the limits of how much other people should be asked to put up with their kid's ****.

Margo_Chester

1. Smelly food
2. Your huge piece of luggage that really should have been checked
3. Strong perfume
4. Please DO bring/wear your deodorant
4A. Your loud mouth/ego - no one really wants to hear how great you happen to think you are, and shouting to your friends 4 rows back really isn't cute
5. I'm sorry, but I don't want you changing your child's diaper in the cabin area either. Please use the restroom; regardless of what you may think it is offensive and no one wants to see it or smell it.

No, I don't hate children, and no I don't think you should leave yours home. I have a lot of patience with crying babies on a plane - they aren't happy and they can't help it. However, their parents can help themselves and don't need to change a dirty diaper in their seats. Carrying the baby to the restroom and maybe waiting (briefly) will not endanger the child (to address the putting their needs first issue). Many people, including myself, would be happy to offer you to get a head of them in line so you don't need to wait as long. It was stated above that someone didn't want to wait in line &quot;20 minutes&quot; with a crying baby waiting for your turn in the rest room. I have never waited 20 minutes in line on a plane to use the facilities. If you won't get up to get in line for the potty are you going to get up (and get in that same line) to dispose of the dirty diaper? Or are you stuffing it in the pocket of the seat back?

nessundorma

I don't think getting bulkhead seats gets rid of the smell. And it puts you closer to the lavs! No excuse.

robertino

With all the pooping and changing diapers kicking that goes on, maybe the airlines should create a separate, walled off section in the cabin, reserved for parents and their children, where kids can scream, seats can be kicked, diapers changed in the seats instead of the parent suffering the inconvenience of using the bathroom for it. And the people who like to leave their seats fully reclined during dinner can join them.

crefloors

Years ago I had a friend who was traveling with her infant. I wasn't with her but she told me this &quot;horror&quot; story after she returned from her trip. She was quite the &quot;fashion plate&quot; and back then one dressed up more for travel. Don't remember why she had the baby with her, but obviously it was a must situation. So, here's my friend in a white suit getting ready to board the plane and that is the exact time the baby &quot;lets go&quot;. It was every where, all over the baby, all over her, at best a NIGHTMARE!!!! So, babies will do what babies have to do, and as unpleasant as it is, I can see cases where there just is NO easy way out!!!!!! LOL So, I think that people should be as kind, polite, and considerate as they can possible be to other passengers in impossibly tight quarters. The just plain bratty kid, the woman putting on nail polish, the BO, all these things are controlable with a bit of consideration for others, but there is some stuff that just cannot be helped. I was sick once on an airplane, in my college days flying with a horrible hangover. It was awful, for me, and of course for those around me. I just wished my window would have popped and sucked me right out of the cabin. Would have put me and eveyone else out of MY misery!!!!! LOL By the way, &quot;Thin&quot; is my hero!!!!!! LOL

LoveItaly

I would imagine if there were a long line for the bathrooms many people in line would plead that the parent holding the baby with a smelly diaper use the next available bathroom, lol. I sure would..I have a weak stomach. And yes I am a mother and a grandmother.

JAGIRL

crefloors,
What-a-NIGHTMARE!!!

Now <i>that's</i> funny when it happens to someone else!

Lesson learned : when travelling, put three diapers onto baby!! Projectile indeed!

SAnParis

Actually farther from the lavs on many planes if they won't let you use 1st class. The point being...after this back &amp; forth diatribe...I certainly don't attempt to offend or bother others in anyway. For those 'non-parents' I would just ask that you exhibit a little consideration the next time you encounter such a situation. As in all things, there are good parents &amp; not so good parents. The bottom line should be, the child however...We make every attempt at planning &amp; doing the right thing, regardless, unexpected surprises tend to be the rule rather than the exception...

nessundorma

SAnParis,

You're kidding yourself if you think it is just &quot;non-parents&quot; talking to you or who object to having diapers changed in the cabin of a plane. I think people in this thread have expressed a number of times their sympathy and patience for a parent traveling with a small child. But it's pretty obvious that a smelly diaper needs to be changed in the lav, not the cabin, and it is not an insuperable difficulty to make that happen.