The dreaded SCIOPERO :(
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:54 PM
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The dreaded SCIOPERO :(
Held my breath as I checked this link...
http://151.22.172.66/servizi/calendario_scioperi.php
... and sure enough, if I'm reading this correctly, there's a strike on the day I arrive in Italy (Apr 22). My internal connection on Alitalia is about 10 minutes before the strike starts. Does anyone know what this means? Will the planes be running? If my plane (and hopefully luggage) makes it to my destination, will anyone be there to guide the plane in and get the luggage off? Will there be any city buses? Will the ferries be running? Help please!
http://151.22.172.66/servizi/calendario_scioperi.php
... and sure enough, if I'm reading this correctly, there's a strike on the day I arrive in Italy (Apr 22). My internal connection on Alitalia is about 10 minutes before the strike starts. Does anyone know what this means? Will the planes be running? If my plane (and hopefully luggage) makes it to my destination, will anyone be there to guide the plane in and get the luggage off? Will there be any city buses? Will the ferries be running? Help please!
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:57 PM
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I saw there is also a strike of some sort planned for the day we arrive in Rome and travel to Naples (May 13).
Can anyone translate:
13 maggio 2005
settore aereo: personale enav
modalita:4 ore: dalle 12.00 alle 16.00
Can anyone translate:
13 maggio 2005
settore aereo: personale enav
modalita:4 ore: dalle 12.00 alle 16.00
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:01 PM
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From the website www.seekitaly.com:
April 18th 2005
nbsp; 24 hours local strike (0000-2400) of Verona-Valerio Catullo airport personnel.
April 19th 2005nbsp; 4 hours air strike (1200 - 1600) of Alitalia flight assistants
April 20th ~ 21st 2005nbsp; 24 hours nationwide strike of railroaders belonging to FS (Ferrovie dello Stato - State Railroads), from 2100 (Apr. 20) till 2100 (Apr. 21).
April 22nd 2005nbsp; 24 hours nationwide strike of local public transportation (buses, subways, tramways and some local trains).
April 22nd 2005nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Alitalia personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.
April 22nd 2005nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Rome- Fiumicino & Ciampino AdR and AdR handling personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.
April 22nd 2005nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Milan-Linate and Malpensa Sea and Sea handling personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.
April 23rd 2005nbsp; 4 hours air strike (1230 - 1630) of personnel belonging to Alitalia, Meridiana, Eurofly, Air Dolomite, Airone and Alpi Eagles. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.
May 1st 2005nbsp; as usual for every Labor Day in Italy, labor unions organize the annual musical concert in Rome, piazza San Giovanni. Expected large crowd attending this event, and public transportation disruption.
May 20th ~ 22nd 2005nbsp;in Florence, announced the 53rd National rally of Bersaglieri (an Italian Army Corps), with some ceremonies in the central streets and squares of the city. --- From 0800 till 1330 (Sunday 22), there will be a great rally with a military parade from Ponte Vecchio till Piazza della Signoria. Expected more than 100,000 participants. --- Museums, hotels, restaurants and public transportation may be more crowded than normal during and leading up to the events. Plan alternate routes to avoid road closures and heavy traffic congestion on the day of the event; allow additional time for local travel.
The site didn't menton May 13.
April 18th 2005
nbsp; 24 hours local strike (0000-2400) of Verona-Valerio Catullo airport personnel.April 19th 2005
nbsp; 4 hours air strike (1200 - 1600) of Alitalia flight assistantsApril 20th ~ 21st 2005
nbsp; 24 hours nationwide strike of railroaders belonging to FS (Ferrovie dello Stato - State Railroads), from 2100 (Apr. 20) till 2100 (Apr. 21). April 22nd 2005
nbsp; 24 hours nationwide strike of local public transportation (buses, subways, tramways and some local trains). April 22nd 2005
nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Alitalia personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.April 22nd 2005
nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Rome- Fiumicino & Ciampino AdR and AdR handling personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.April 22nd 2005
nbsp; 8 hours air strike (1000 - 1800) of Milan-Linate and Malpensa Sea and Sea handling personnel. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.April 23rd 2005
nbsp; 4 hours air strike (1230 - 1630) of personnel belonging to Alitalia, Meridiana, Eurofly, Air Dolomite, Airone and Alpi Eagles. Expect significant flight disruptions if strike not canceled.May 1st 2005
nbsp; as usual for every Labor Day in Italy, labor unions organize the annual musical concert in Rome, piazza San Giovanni. Expected large crowd attending this event, and public transportation disruption. May 20th ~ 22nd 2005
nbsp;in Florence, announced the 53rd National rally of Bersaglieri (an Italian Army Corps), with some ceremonies in the central streets and squares of the city. --- From 0800 till 1330 (Sunday 22), there will be a great rally with a military parade from Ponte Vecchio till Piazza della Signoria. Expected more than 100,000 participants. --- Museums, hotels, restaurants and public transportation may be more crowded than normal during and leading up to the events. Plan alternate routes to avoid road closures and heavy traffic congestion on the day of the event; allow additional time for local travel.The site didn't menton May 13.
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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TexasAggie: seekitaly.com is usually right on the ball but I noticed that they did miss your May 13 strike.
It's listed on the official Italian strike website www.infrastrutturetrasporti.it/
ENAV are the 'Air Traffic Controllers'.
It *seems to me* that their strikes are either cancelled or management fills-in for them because they always seem to be striking weekly. But usually there seems to be no disruptions mentioned by posters here and elsewhere.
But when they do strike, it's pretty major and it makes the News in the US with all the flights grounded and thousands stranded.
I was to fly out (Rome-Boston) in an ENAV strike last year. When I asked BA and my hotel's staff about the strike the day before leaving, no one had even heard about it. Yet it was scheduled on the official strike website.
Regards, Walter
It's listed on the official Italian strike website www.infrastrutturetrasporti.it/
ENAV are the 'Air Traffic Controllers'.
It *seems to me* that their strikes are either cancelled or management fills-in for them because they always seem to be striking weekly. But usually there seems to be no disruptions mentioned by posters here and elsewhere.
But when they do strike, it's pretty major and it makes the News in the US with all the flights grounded and thousands stranded.
I was to fly out (Rome-Boston) in an ENAV strike last year. When I asked BA and my hotel's staff about the strike the day before leaving, no one had even heard about it. Yet it was scheduled on the official strike website.
Regards, Walter
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:55 PM
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Nutella: I'm fairly certain that the ferries to the islands are not included in this strike. I've seen their strikes posted before and they are IIRC listed as something like 'FS Maritime'.
The local transport strike, will probably go on but I have noticed that twice it was scaled-down from 24hrs. Once to 8hrs and another time where it excluded the morning and evening rush hours.
As far as the airport & airline related strikes go...who knows
. But I would plan for it in case you get hung-up at the airport (change of clothes, snacks, good book, etc) or a Plan B, like blowing-off the internal connection heading out on your own (train, car, hotel). Last month in Rome I saw on TV all the flight cancellations due to an Alitalia strike that did occur. Good-Luck...Regards, Walter
p.s. Although I have no personal experience I can imagine the chaos. Of 8hrs of Alitalia flights cancelled plus people arriving for post-strike flights what a mob scene the check-in desks would be in trying to rebook.
A poster on the LonelyPlanet said that during a check-in personal strike last year, it got so bad that the police had to be called in to the desks to attempt to keep order.
The local transport strike, will probably go on but I have noticed that twice it was scaled-down from 24hrs. Once to 8hrs and another time where it excluded the morning and evening rush hours.
As far as the airport & airline related strikes go...who knows
. But I would plan for it in case you get hung-up at the airport (change of clothes, snacks, good book, etc) or a Plan B, like blowing-off the internal connection heading out on your own (train, car, hotel). Last month in Rome I saw on TV all the flight cancellations due to an Alitalia strike that did occur. Good-Luck...Regards, Walter p.s. Although I have no personal experience I can imagine the chaos. Of 8hrs of Alitalia flights cancelled plus people arriving for post-strike flights what a mob scene the check-in desks would be in trying to rebook.
A poster on the LonelyPlanet said that during a check-in personal strike last year, it got so bad that the police had to be called in to the desks to attempt to keep order.
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:11 PM
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I had forgotten that ugly side of life in Italy.
Takes me back to the 70s when I lived there. Now THAT was brutal. Constant strikes. Plus gas shortages, sugar shortages, meat shortages. Yech.
My condolences to all who have to suffer through the irritating exercise of those (hard-won) union rights.
Takes me back to the 70s when I lived there. Now THAT was brutal. Constant strikes. Plus gas shortages, sugar shortages, meat shortages. Yech.
My condolences to all who have to suffer through the irritating exercise of those (hard-won) union rights.
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:19 PM
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I'm planning to take a train from Sienna to Rome on 4/22. I will have a rental the previous three days. Should I keep it to take it on into Rome? I don't want to mess with dropping the car off in Rome, but I will need to get to Rome by 4/25 for our flight out. I have hotel reservations for 22-24 in Rome and don't know if I should keep the 22 and 23 reservation or just stay in Tuscany and go on into Rome just before we fly out. Thanks, PJK
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:45 AM
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Thanks Walter.
Yes, my carry-on bag just got a little bigger
Unfortunately I do have to check luggage, so that will prohibit any spur of the moment travels by other means. So I'm at the mercy of the strikers.
Maybe wishful thinking, but perhaps the strikes will be called off or limited if new Pope activities coincide with that day?...
Yes, my carry-on bag just got a little bigger
Unfortunately I do have to check luggage, so that will prohibit any spur of the moment travels by other means. So I'm at the mercy of the strikers.Maybe wishful thinking, but perhaps the strikes will be called off or limited if new Pope activities coincide with that day?...
Apr 28th, 2005, 03:49 PM
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Tho't I would top this thread and add that we were in Italy last week and had to deal with rail strikes on two of our travel days and with a metro strike on the day we went into Rome. I had read this thread not long before I left and knowing the strike dates was helpful. Hope no one who is heading out has to deal with this issue, but evidently it is a common eventand giving back-up plans a little forethought takes away some of the stress when/if it happens. PJK
May 31st, 2005, 06:04 AM
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Dear ellenem and all:
Tried getting into seekitaly.com and page said they were on vacation until June 5th...We leave for Italy (Milan) on the 7th arrive the 8th and connect to Catania (Sicily)...Alitalia all the way...has anyone heard ANYTHING about those dates? We're headed for a family reunion and this will be a h--l of a way to start!!
Tried getting into seekitaly.com and page said they were on vacation until June 5th...We leave for Italy (Milan) on the 7th arrive the 8th and connect to Catania (Sicily)...Alitalia all the way...has anyone heard ANYTHING about those dates? We're headed for a family reunion and this will be a h--l of a way to start!!
May 31st, 2005, 07:45 AM
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JEAN, I just posted a new thread with the information regarding strikes in Italy during the month of June. I hope you see this thread. I will affect your trip on June 8th unfortuantly. Best regards
May 31st, 2005, 10:04 AM
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EVAV HAS POSTPONED AIR STRIKE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 8TH!! Still planning future June strikes however..NUTELLA & TEXASAGGIE...How did everything work out for you? Would love to hear your experiences as I'm still not out of the woods for return trip.
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