Speaking of illegal apartments...or legal, sorry to cut in on the very engaging debate but I think I might have found the one!

I could really use your help. I'm not familiar with this area at all but even though we'll still be going to the center a lot, we're also excited to discover a new neighborhood. Want to make sure before pulling the trigger today.

It's small, really had to think about that Murphy bed but a ton of perfect reviews with some saying they couldn't believe how comfy the bed is, etc so we're okay with it for 9 nights. Great views, very affordable, looks clean, terrace, and after going back and forth between St Germain, St Paul area, the 8th, 9th, 16th, 14th, 1st...this one really caught my attention and it is in the 10th! Very near Jacques Bonsergent AND Du Pain et des Idées {supposed to be delish??} & the metro...and the canal!

Is this a good area? Thanks!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Du...b2ff43b8e1fbe2

slight no big deal correction: I meant to say 15th not 14th.

Tessie,

I don't know the immediate area but if you like the apartment and if you have good Metro/bus connections it should be good. Have you looked on google earth or pages jaunes for street views?

Depending on the exact address, this could be a good location. There are many quiet buildings on this street, but also a couple of bars and a theatre - the Alhambra - which are noisy at night and on weekends.
I would check out the exact address before committing - there are several apartments in this area that have surfaced lately, and some of them are not good choices, for different reasons. If you are coming in hot weather, make sure to look for windows - portable a/c won't be enough to keep you cool.

The boulangerie/patisserie is truly wonderful, and I go there a lot - but I wouldn't build my stay around that. Canal St Martin area is full of young people who like to hang out and drink and fool around, especially at night and on weekends. There are literally tons of cheap fast-food ethnic restaurants, bars and the people who frequent them on most of the streets leading to the Canal. Most of the action begins in the early evenings and continues until after 2 AM. If that doesn't bother you, go for it. During the day, the area is much nicer. Transportation is easy. Grocery stores, everything else you need. Just make sure you want to deal with the evenings.

And do your due diligence on the apartment.

<<that's not to say that she doesn't have a point, but it gets a little wearing reading it on every thread about renting an apartment in Paris.>>

Where else would someone post the accurate information about renting an apartment in Paris? When people ask about renting apts in Paris they should be given all pertinent information. If they decide to go ahead and rent at least if something goes wrong they can't say "Why didn't someone tell me about the illegal apt rental issue in Paris?"

This isn't the only travel forum where the accurate warnings are given. And there are many people out their besides manouche telling people about the current crack down. And the reason for the crack down is because of the advent of VRBO & AirBNB and the others, and the greed of many people who would rather rent their apartment to short term vactioners than to long term residents.

I saw a figure within the last few days and I don't remember the exact numbers. But it was something like there used to be _ ,_ _ _ apartment rentals in Paris and now there are
_ _ , _ _ _ . Like I said, don't remember the actual numbers but there has been an astounding jump in rentals in the last couple of years. Therefore, catching the attention of the City of Paris. Which is why the new Mayor has made it a priority to act in order to help the people who work in Paris be able to also live there, too. The residents / local workers are being priced out of Paris. And the ones that do live in Paris are complaining because of the increase in volume of people coming and going from their bldgs. Total lack or security and privacy.

do tourists come backwards and forwards to apartments more than the people who live there permanently? Are there necessarily more of them than there would have been if there were a permanent resident?

I can see the security issue, and possibly the privacy issue if you, as a parisian resident are used to seeing the same people on your landing every day, but greater footfall?

I'm not defending illegal use, but I'm interested that Manouche says that HE belongs to several neighbourhood associations that are working with the mayor about this issue. Does this mean that you live in several neighbourhoods, Manouche? I wondering just how you manage that.

As for people eating out more than they have reckoned on and throwing lots of food away at the end of a let, that's pure speculation. The last time we rented an apartment [actually in Rome] we never planned to eat in and never did so, apart from the odd breakfast. People rent apartments for all sorts of reasons, not just to save money by eating in.

annhig I will tell you one thing tourists do that local residents do less.

Make noise rolling their suitcases down the hallways.. every few days or every week or so , or trying to cram themselves and their luggage in tiny suitcases..often accompanied by cursing, laughing and groaning.. lol

I know because it did annoy ME listening to a suitcase being rolled past our door at 6 am one morning.. and as I said.. I stayed in an apartment building that contained 6 units all owned by same company. So,, I know it was another tourist.

I totally understand why some residents complain.. and yes.. I think sometimes there are more tourists in an apartment then there would be permanent residents.. because I do not see living permanently in an apartment a family of four with two on a sofa couch ,, do you? Its ok for a few days or a week.. but lets face it most families would want more permanent space. So, yes.. density would be increased.

annhig - I'm interested in why you are so intrigued by my private life, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the rental situation in Paris.

If you actually spent much time here and participated in the residential community in Paris, instead of being the ideal short-term visitor you say you are, you would be well aware that there are several organizations operating within each arrondissement - all dependent on the social and political proclivities of the people involved.

Your claim makes as much sense as saying there is only one legitimate Girl Scout chapter allowed in all of Cincinnati.

"Legal" agencies does not mean legal apartments. It just means that they have obtained signed statements from the owners that the law has been respected.

You might want to contact Adrian Leeds who has appeared many times on the 'Househunters' show and ask her why she has pulled all of her apartments off the market and is trying to sell them now. Could it be the 50,000€ fines that she received for them plus the additional penalties that she must pay? Just wondering...