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Old Apr 5th, 2002, 09:55 AM
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My wife and I are planning to visit spain in may. And we trying to decide if we should take an escorted tour like Trafalgar or Cosmos OR rent a car and travel on our own.
I would like to rent a car and follow this itinerary;
fly in to madrid from london,
Madrid 2 nights, pick up car drive to
Toledo 1 night, drive to
Cordoba 1 night, drive to
Seville 1 night, drive to
Granada 2 nights, drive to
Malaga 1 night
fly back to London to US
Any suggestions or advice to improve this plan would be great. Any suggestions on lodgings?
I was reading a few posts about the Pueblo Blancos are they worth the trip and how can I incorporate them into this itinerary.

Old Apr 5th, 2002, 10:07 AM
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Rent a car! Spain is easy to do on your own,just defensive driving.Pick up the car on the way out of Madrid,you can leave Toledo early and see Cordoba and get to Sevilla, 2 nights there. Up early again to Granada and continue on to Malaga for a couple of days relaxation at the beach.
Just do your driving during daylight and get going early in the day!
Get good maps,guide book.You still have time to get in touch w/Spanish Tourist Office and get great info/maps of Spain and individual cities.Worth a phone call
Old Apr 5th, 2002, 10:25 AM
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You could also do something in between. We got an independent package from Central Holidays that included the hotel, train pass, 1/2 day sightseeing in Madrid and Seville that included hotel stays in Madrid, Seville, Cordoba and the Costa del Sol.

Or you could do a combination of car/train. We visited Toledo from Madrid, you can visit Cordoba from Seville, Granada from the Costa del Sol. We liked having a car in the Costa del Sol area but you could also do day trips by train
Old Apr 5th, 2002, 11:17 AM
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I would not spend 2 nights in Granada - we were the most disappointed with this city - you can do the Alhambra (which was not disappointing - a must see) in a day - and that is all you really need to do in Granada. I would recommend an overnight stop in Ronda - it was fabulous! You may also regret not having at least another night in Seville.
Old Apr 7th, 2002, 12:25 PM
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I agree with above, Ronda is a good idea!
Old Apr 7th, 2002, 04:44 PM
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While I agree that Ronda is a good addition, I couldn't disagree more about cutting your time in Granada to one night. The Alhambra is *definitely* not all there is to see in Granada. In fact, of our trip to Andalucia, Granada was by far our favorite city.

The Alhambra will take the better part of a day. You can also tour the Albacin. Don't miss the Cathedral and the Alcazar. We also loved the statue of Isabella commissioning Columbus. Granada has a real "city energy" to it that we loved -- lots of people in the streets, great restaurants, great tapas bars. We happened upon a beautiful wedding and a festival for a local saint. Magical!
Old Apr 8th, 2002, 12:13 PM
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Thanks to all who replied!
Thank you for your insights!
Old Apr 8th, 2002, 01:18 PM
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Ed, what about Madrid (two nights), pick up car, early (early!) start driving to Toledo for day sightseeing, continue on to Seville (3 nights), a day trip to Cordova on your way to Malaga (3 nights), which includes daytrips to Granada and Ronda. Drop car at Malaga Airport, flew-connect London to US. If possible try to do this the second week of may when the Festivities of San Isidro (Patron Saint of Bullfighting) are in full swing. Enjoy Spain! Amazing country!!
Old Apr 9th, 2002, 10:44 PM
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Old Apr 10th, 2002, 04:56 AM
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This was our plan. We were really pleased with the schedule and had plenty of time to see what was on our list and then some. Since we pack light it was no problem for us to move about with one night stops at hotels. Driving through the countryside and stopping at various planned and unplanned towns was great fun. If you want a more detailed itinerary, email me and I will send it to you.

2 nights Madrid (picked up car in morning of third day)
1 night Avila (stopped at Segovia on route)
1 night Toledo
1 night Almagro (stops at Aranjuiz Palace,Consuegra windmills)
1 night Cordoba
2 nights Granada
1 night near Marbella (stops at Nerja, Mijas)
4 nights Seville (stopped at Ronda and Sentenil de las Bodegas on the way), dropped off car on last morning and flew to Barcelona.*
3 nights Barcelona.

*There is one correction. Everyone thought we were nuts, but it worked fine for us. From Seville, we took an early flight to Bilbao, checked our luggage through to Barcelona, took a local bus and went to the Guggenheim and the Museum of Fine Arts in Bilbao, walked around town, returned to the Bilbao airport at 5PM for an evening flight to Barcelona.
Old Apr 10th, 2002, 05:46 AM
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I tried to send you some notes on Toledo and the Andalucian cities but my e-mail to your address given here was returned. If you e-mail me I will attach the folders to a reply.
Old Apr 10th, 2002, 06:21 AM
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An excellent resource for Spain is

Best wishes,

Old Apr 11th, 2002, 09:30 AM
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Old Apr 11th, 2002, 10:27 AM
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Rent the car, and not a teenie, weenie, Petrinni either, Spain is big and you'll want to gobble up miles or kliks fast. Granada is well-worth two nights, if you can't get the Parador (which you won't this late) try for the Alhambra Palace--just below the Alhambra itself). You need advance tickets for the Alhambra. We use Marketing Ahead, an agency that specializes in Spain and Portugal for hotels, and have not been disappointed. Ronda is a must see, but given your itinerary, it may be a bit of a reach. Although much of the driving is scenic you might want to explore a little on foot.
Old Apr 11th, 2002, 10:33 AM
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1. Seville is at least 2 nights. Granada, 1 at most.

2. Cordoba is not worth an overnighter.

3. Toledo is dead in the evening. I wouldn't overnight there on a short trip.

3. I driving from the north to Anadlucia is crazy with the AVE available. With your itinerary being only big cities, there is absolutely no point in driving.

4. You miss some of the best towns, Ronda, and Arcos. The other white villages aren't worth a stop o a short trip.

5. I would stay in Nerja the last night rather than Malaga if your plane isn't too early.


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