Shelia - Your Ideas, Please - Wales
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:54 PM
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caroline, I guess you mean you don't know why this poster is under suspicion rather than that you're not familiar with the term "troll"?
"...It's supposed to be troll in the sense of trawl. You just put out the bait and see who bites...
"A troll is deliberately crafted to provoke others with the intention of wasting their time and energy...
"Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument. They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.
"Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.
"Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.
"Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily."
(Thanks to http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition)
On the latter assumption, I think I see in this poster's tone, awkward use of English and mis-spellings strong similarities with a pest who's been infesting this board for some time under a variety of names. Obviously hawkeyed Scarlett does too.
"...It's supposed to be troll in the sense of trawl. You just put out the bait and see who bites...
"A troll is deliberately crafted to provoke others with the intention of wasting their time and energy...
"Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument. They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.
"Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.
"Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.
"Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily."
(Thanks to http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition)
On the latter assumption, I think I see in this poster's tone, awkward use of English and mis-spellings strong similarities with a pest who's been infesting this board for some time under a variety of names. Obviously hawkeyed Scarlett does too.
Jan 19th, 2005, 06:56 PM
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caroline, I guess you mean you don't know why this poster is under suspicion rather than that you're not familiar with the term "troll"?
"...It's supposed to be troll in the sense of trawl. You just put out the bait and see who bites...
"A troll is deliberately crafted to provoke others with the intention of wasting their time and energy...
"Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument. They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.
"Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.
"Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.
"Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily."
(Thanks to http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition)
On the latter assumption, I think I see in this poster's tone, awkward use of English and mis-spellings strong similarities with a pest who's been infesting this board for some time under a variety of names. Obviously hawkeyed Scarlett does too.
(tedgale, that news has thrown my travel plans into disarray too.)
"...It's supposed to be troll in the sense of trawl. You just put out the bait and see who bites...
"A troll is deliberately crafted to provoke others with the intention of wasting their time and energy...
"Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument. They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.
"Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.
"Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.
"Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily."
(Thanks to http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TrollDefinition)
On the latter assumption, I think I see in this poster's tone, awkward use of English and mis-spellings strong similarities with a pest who's been infesting this board for some time under a variety of names. Obviously hawkeyed Scarlett does too.
(tedgale, that news has thrown my travel plans into disarray too.)
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:20 AM
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Caroline, yes, the questions I posted were legit, and thanks for the input.
Hopefully this will satisfy Scarlett and Patrick, who seem unable to respect postings for information.
Yes, Wales in part of the UK trip ... and QM2 is the voyage back to NYC - BA offers the free trip going over. You apparently are not familiar with this facet of travel, but call Cunard and they'll fill you in - 800-728-6273. Yes, 800, a free call.
Scarlett, Paris was earlier this month, and yes, annual. But then you've posted you travel to Paris dozens and dozens of time, so this ought to come as no suprise that some do go yearly. No, I never would use Hotel Lutece which you gush over. It's a one or two star, and when I checked on it years ago, it apparently was full of backpackers and some kind of hairdress convention form the NE US. One look and that was it ... and we also checked their sister place up the street, Hotel des Deux Iles, and while better, it was barely a two star. We never said anything because we didn't want to hurt anyones' feelings. We moved over to St. Honore, more in keeping with the style of trip we frequent.
And Patrick, I'm sorry you're having your own problems. Lets simply agree that's causing you to strike out at people. Hope things ease up for you.
Again, thanks to the posters whop helped us. We appreciate that. And to the doubters, well some people are basically negative, and never get beyond it. My last word on any of this.
Hopefully this will satisfy Scarlett and Patrick, who seem unable to respect postings for information.
Yes, Wales in part of the UK trip ... and QM2 is the voyage back to NYC - BA offers the free trip going over. You apparently are not familiar with this facet of travel, but call Cunard and they'll fill you in - 800-728-6273. Yes, 800, a free call.
Scarlett, Paris was earlier this month, and yes, annual. But then you've posted you travel to Paris dozens and dozens of time, so this ought to come as no suprise that some do go yearly. No, I never would use Hotel Lutece which you gush over. It's a one or two star, and when I checked on it years ago, it apparently was full of backpackers and some kind of hairdress convention form the NE US. One look and that was it ... and we also checked their sister place up the street, Hotel des Deux Iles, and while better, it was barely a two star. We never said anything because we didn't want to hurt anyones' feelings. We moved over to St. Honore, more in keeping with the style of trip we frequent.
And Patrick, I'm sorry you're having your own problems. Lets simply agree that's causing you to strike out at people. Hope things ease up for you.
Again, thanks to the posters whop helped us. We appreciate that. And to the doubters, well some people are basically negative, and never get beyond it. My last word on any of this.
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:53 AM
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I'm just so sorry that since January 11, when you registered here and starting posting under THIS PARTICULAR SCREEN NAME, you have never seen fit to give us a trip report of your trip to Paris. Or were we supposed to look under one of your other screen names that used various dates, mixed stories, etc.? When we get too mixed up with keeping our stories straight, it's always a good idea to change our screen name.
What's really funny is that the day after you registered here you said "Cannot locate the original thread". Did you forget which of your other screen names you posted it under? In the fifth post of this thread you cleverly avoided denying that, by changing the subject. At least I'll give you credit for that.
What's really funny is that the day after you registered here you said "Cannot locate the original thread". Did you forget which of your other screen names you posted it under? In the fifth post of this thread you cleverly avoided denying that, by changing the subject. At least I'll give you credit for that.
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:09 AM
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Patrick, shall you and I agree to end the negatives exchange? You are indeed entitled to your views. I will try one more time, a final time: please understand my UK trip, about which i've been collecting information, but now am finished, just like the trip to Paris a few weeks ago, is perfectly legitimate.
I posted an "olive branch" earlier to wish you well. I apologize if I mistated something, but I did try.
You are correct, I never posted a Paris report. I was there only four days, stayed near friends, and dined solely in the seventh ... and I have responded to a few questions about restaurants. I'd been to Paris many times before, and just felt I had nothing new or interesting to offer you guys.
Scarlett apparently gets on her email system and whips up the troops. She has me in Paris in 2000 .... at a one or two star named Lutece ... ask her if I had a good time, lol, since I was in Buenos Aires at the time.
Life is too good to waste it bickering. Why make a big deal out of screen names. No one basically cares, except OO, Scarlett and joan. They seem to have lots of free time to fret about insignificant matters. I bet you don't.
Take care, and I hope your situation gets better very quickly.
I posted an "olive branch" earlier to wish you well. I apologize if I mistated something, but I did try.
You are correct, I never posted a Paris report. I was there only four days, stayed near friends, and dined solely in the seventh ... and I have responded to a few questions about restaurants. I'd been to Paris many times before, and just felt I had nothing new or interesting to offer you guys.
Scarlett apparently gets on her email system and whips up the troops. She has me in Paris in 2000 .... at a one or two star named Lutece ... ask her if I had a good time, lol, since I was in Buenos Aires at the time.
Life is too good to waste it bickering. Why make a big deal out of screen names. No one basically cares, except OO, Scarlett and joan. They seem to have lots of free time to fret about insignificant matters. I bet you don't.
Take care, and I hope your situation gets better very quickly.
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:00 PM
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TravelLaughter: I am not part of the Scarlett/Patrick cabal you seem to believe is after you.
But it is getting really, REALLY tiresome, you making up all these crazy itineraries and abusing the good will of people who actually think you're for real. Some folks take a lot of care/trouble to help/answer questions.
And you are sitting there laughing your head off -- give it a rest - OK?????
But it is getting really, REALLY tiresome, you making up all these crazy itineraries and abusing the good will of people who actually think you're for real. Some folks take a lot of care/trouble to help/answer questions.
And you are sitting there laughing your head off -- give it a rest - OK?????
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:08 PM
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Yes, the backpackers convention must have taken up the Lutece just when you were there LOL
Very funny, but you see, when you were posting as Leone, you thanked me, Scarlett, for the advice and told about your stay there, in 2000.
When you asked me, under yet another screen name, how often I went to Paris, I did say dozens.. then I corrected myself in that same post. Go back and read it , if you can remember the screen name you were using that day. It is still there..for all to read.
I find it ironic that you criticise people who post on Fodors as having time on their hands, nothing else to do, etc..when you can be found here, every day- M-F, 9-5, posting away at work. And we have the same screen names, why do you change yours all the time? Got a dictionary? Look up <b>hypocrite</b>.
Very funny, but you see, when you were posting as Leone, you thanked me, Scarlett, for the advice and told about your stay there, in 2000.
When you asked me, under yet another screen name, how often I went to Paris, I did say dozens.. then I corrected myself in that same post. Go back and read it , if you can remember the screen name you were using that day. It is still there..for all to read.
I find it ironic that you criticise people who post on Fodors as having time on their hands, nothing else to do, etc..when you can be found here, every day- M-F, 9-5, posting away at work. And we have the same screen names, why do you change yours all the time? Got a dictionary? Look up <b>hypocrite</b>.
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:12 PM
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<i>Ahhh I see Leone/blacktie/travellaughter has once again de-registered his screen name. No doubt he will be back Monday as someone new, staying at the Ritz and asking about what to wear when he has dinner with the Queen LOL</i>
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:23 PM
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Yes, and one thing deregistering does is eliminate the ability to click on a screen name and find previous posts. That was how I easily found all the mixed up stories, and no doubt why he has deregistered this one, since we started calling him on the contradictons.
Shouldn't the name "TravelLaughter" have told us it was all a joke? So sad that many of us keep falling for each one and spend time giving what we think are helpful suggestions before realizing it is yet all another joke.
Shouldn't the name "TravelLaughter" have told us it was all a joke? So sad that many of us keep falling for each one and spend time giving what we think are helpful suggestions before realizing it is yet all another joke.
Jan 21st, 2005, 02:18 PM
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I feel sorry for those who don't realize this guy is a troll, who makes up all these things. Why not expose him each time so that people aren't suckered into spending time answering his questions and getting involved in meaningless chat -- while he sits back and laughs at them (I mean us, because I too have fallen for it).
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:03 PM
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It looks like a lot of us, me included, have been suckered yet again - see post "Help! 25 yr. old female travelling alone. Am I safe?" Not sure if it's the same sad case, but there are some telltale signs.
