Who would offer you a job without a proper work permit (visa)?

Well, maybe I expalined wrong. It is not a proper work, it is just teaching english to children. I mean, it would be the same that going for tourism. Could I do that?

Thank you so much for your quick answers.

>>It is not a proper work, it is just teaching english to children<<

If it is a 'proper' job, or an 'improper' one (under the table), or even volunteering -- you can't work as a tourist.

Joycet - if you are from the USA why is your english so odd? Are you a citizen or did you just somehow travel from here to europe?

Separately, if you are on a tourist visa you CANNOT work - at all - at anything.

And if you are stopped in Spain how will you explain that you have no entry as a tourist? How can you prove you are not just overstaying your other visa?

I believe Joyce is saying she has is getting paid under the table by a private person. I don't believe a school would hire someone illegally, but I'm not sure. there are some exceptions for students, however, in terms of being allowed to work, or "au pairs".

But I think she just wants to know the answer as if she were a tourist (forget the work issue).

And you do not need a work permit to do volunteer work in Spain.

>>I believe Joyce is saying she has is getting paid under the table by a private person.<<

Yes,Christina -- we assumed she meant being paid under the table . . . which is definitely illegal.

And how will she explain where she is staying or how paying for her hotels if she is topped and asked.

And what happens when she finally leaves Spain and they look at her passport visa and see how long she has overstayed?

Thanks everyone for trying to help me.

Just think that I am going for tourism to Spain. I don´t have to justify anything because I just go for tourism. But I have bank statements that proof that I have enough money to stay in Spain by my own.

Just let me know if I can do it. Leave Madrid on July 9th to UK and then come back on July 11th. Just think about I am a tourist in Spain.

Thanks everyone so much.

As Christin said, forget about the work issue.

please let me know. I am soworry about this issue.

Hello, guys I really need an answer since the 10th of July is so close. Could u help me?

Thank u so much

Joycet -

We are NOT the immigration authorities - just a bunch of travelers who have NOT been in your situation. We can give opinions, some based on some similar experience.

But we can;t give you a specific answer. What we say doesn't matter.

You need to talk to the appropriate authorities for an official answer.

My daughter will be starting a semester program on 8/29 in France. The consulate has given her a long stay student visa starting on Aug 9. They will only give her 20 days prior to the start of her program. We arrive in Budapest on July 30 and will be traveling until her start date. She was told she would be able to travel on a Schengen Visa, but will have to exit the Schengen area after 8/9 and reenter using her student Visa. Since the Schengen is valid for 90 days, does she have to exit prior to the start of her program, or does she have until the end of October to exit and reenter under the student Visa. Or will that be a problem with the French immigration if she does not use the Visa until a month or two after the start date? She is also checking with her program contacts on this issue. Thank you for any help.

She should enter with her student visa before the start of her program. If she doesn't and just turns up at some random time they may believe that she really isn't in school and not eligible for a student visa.

Ideally, your daughter should leave the Schengen area before August 9th and enter France on that date or shortly thereafter to activate her student visa. The most convenient non-Schengen area near Budapest to accomplish this would be Romania, but the UK also works well because it's so close to France.

My sons were told not to travel as tourists in the countries where they were going to study until the date that their student visas became valid. But the rules are fuzzy and there are many opinions about this. I would trust the administrators of your daughter's program.

Hello guys. I have very good information from the us embassy in prague. This information is applied also to all the Schengen area. You dont need to leave schengen after the expiration of your visa if you are US citizen, Canadian or from Japan.

Take a look:

http://prague.usembassy.gov/new_rule...tay_visas.html

So finally I will be able to go to Spain because I will have 90 days as a tourist.

I hope this can help a lot of people.

Responding to tustinbells: You have 90 days that you can use before or after your visa. So you will not have problems. Are you from USA?

Yes, we are from the USA. Her contact at her program in Aix is checking into things for her. I hope we can avoid the expense of a day trip to on the Eurostar to London just to validate her VISA. Someone else told us she might be able to go the the immigration office in France and have it validated after 8/9. We are exploring all options.

My son will begin study in Munich April 4. He plans to travel as a tourist prior, flying to Dublin March 10, then Berlin, Krakow, Budapest, Copenhagen, Edinburgh and back to Dublin. He will then fly from Dublin to Munich on April 4 to begin his program, at which time the program will help him get the required student and German residency permits for his time there as a student. He'll return to the US at the end of his program in late July. My question is, will he have trouble entering Dublin or any of the other countries as a tourist in March, particularly since his return flight is from Munich in late July? Or will documentation of all his flights and acceptance to the program be sufficient to show immigration in Dublin, etc that he is just a tourist prior to his studies? We don't think he will have Schengen issues but are worried we've missed something or that having a return flight beyond the typical 90 day tourist allowance could be a problem. Any advice or cautions would be gratefully welcomed.

Is he American -- then there are no issues re his pre-school travel (assuming there aren't any huge red flags you haven't mentioned. He will just be a tourist like everyone else.

BUT >><i><blue>He will then fly from Dublin to Munich on April 4 to begin his program, at which time the program will help him get the required student and German residency permits for his time there as a student. </i></blue><<

Not sure if you meant it exactly as it sounds . . . But he must get his student visa before leaving home - not after he is in Germany.