kerouac

We already had this discussion, which always fails to mention the number of French Jews returning from Israel within one year, which is also increasing.

In any case, I will ignore everything that IMDonehere posts on this subject, because I don't have time to waste on ignorant nonsense recopied from press sources pushing their own hateful agenda.

pariswat

Seesm e ahve one guy secialized in musloms in France and now one in Jews.

In France, like it or not, it is forbidden to discriminate. oour muslims are French, and our Jews are French. So how does your watchdog retrieve this info ?

So, yes do count me as an anitsemtic if I'm not alarmed by your watchdog, as I suppose is the goal of your sentence.

However I've read that incidents involving red squirrels from Tasmania is also dramatically increasing by 103,5 %.
Call it ignorance/arrogance/resistance to not sympathize with those squirrels.

fuzzbucket

Do you understand what constitutes "a hate crime" in Paris?
Here are some examples of the most typical hate crimes that are reported:
Someone standing in the street yelling "I hate Jews" (or Muslims, or Asians, or...).
Overturning a garbage can in front of a place of business while insulting the owner.
Spray painting an insult on a building.
Putting an insulting poster on a building.
Causing a disruption during a peaceful protest march, while insulting the group involved.
Cemetery desecrations (very rare, usually in rural areas).
Abandoned packages or luggage are taken very seriously and destroyed immediately, but this usually occurs in train/Metro stations.

That's about it.

Bombs, drive-by shootings - definitely could and do happen, but the probability is so small it can't really be measured.

PalenQ

but the probability is so small it can't really be measured.>

Yes and that is the salient point - I'd have absolutely no fear of being in Paris right now - too bad tourists are cancelling Paris hotels and trips in droves (NYTimes article said last week) - this of course only works to the advantage of the scumbag terrorists.

Guy18

Whether you choose to believe the news sources that have pointed out that the Bataclan was a specifically Jewish target that had been threatened in the past or not is of little interest to me. No one can be sure. But to discount Jews and Jewish institutions as having a possibly higher likelihood of being targets is foolish. An attack on a Jewish museum in Belgium, a Jewish school in Toulouse, a kosher market in Paris, and a foiled plot against a Jewish bookstore and synagogues in Catalonia are all recent events. In a time when many are cancelling trips altogether, I don't think it is outlandish of someone to avoid places that might have special allure to terrorists. I am very happy to hear that life goes on as usual on the Rue des Rosiers which has, incidentally, been targeted in the past. Thanks for the information!

kerouac

Why do you only mention Jewish targets? The non-Jewish targets far outnumber them. In the 1980's, most of the targets were Lebanese. Even in January, the prime target (Charlie Hebdo, accused of being anti Muslim) was not Jewish at all and the kosher supermarket was just a secondary objective.

The main target is the free lifestyle of France.

PalenQ

The main target is the free lifestyle of France.>

of the west in general - nothing special about France which has less freedom that the U.S. in terms of free speech, etc. In France there are as noted above several hate crimes that would not be considered to be so here and if one dares to even deny the Holocaust they are in trouble - yes that is odious to me to but it is protected freedom of speech here.

The main target of the recent massacres was France's participation in the air war against ISIS not the free lifestyle of France. Period.

analogue

Guy18, it might be more useful to the people here if you write something like "I am Jewish and am worried about visiting Jewish areas in Paris." If you have no interest in other groups or their security, you should make that clear.

fuzzbucket

PalenQ - you are dead wrong.
The main targets of the recent attacks in Paris were these:

To harm as many people and dignitaries as possible inside Stade de France. Any self-respecting terrorist would aim for this, to draw as much attention to his cause as possible.

Bataclan had been planned months in advance - a sold-out venue, an easily-controlled environment with no security, American band, the largest amount of damage possible in a short period of time.

There is speculation that the cafes that were targeted might have had a personal element involved. These were attacks on "French people having fun", but quite possibly had an underlying personal motive. There were much easier, larger targets just a block in either direction.