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RLM346 UPDATED SPAIN TRIP PLAN + SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND HELP NEEDED + SOME THINGS WE LEARNED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

RLM346 UPDATED SPAIN TRIP PLAN + SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND HELP NEEDED + SOME THINGS WE LEARNED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

Jul 25th, 2007, 03:54 AM
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SORRY, from Motril you go WEST to Salobreña, Nerja etc.
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Jul 25th, 2007, 06:02 AM
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josele,
Thanks for your detailed trip plan. I had no intention of skipping the Alfonso. I would have liked to arrive there a day early and leave a day earlier but so far that does not seem possible.

It sounds like you recommend my plan revision #1 which has me spend the night in Ronda and skip the Alhambra at night. Is that correct?

Would I be able to do the trip you suggested on Friday and return to Seville that night(as described in plan revision #2)? If so, I would go right to Granada or just stop in Ronda for the day on Saturday. This would mean not staying in Ronda overnight but seeing the Alhambra at night. Is staying overnight in Ronda important?
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Jul 25th, 2007, 08:14 AM
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Great News. The Alfonso allowed us to move our reservation up one day without penalty. We still stay 4 nights but leave Seville on Friday so our new plan is:

Donít stay in Madrid but go directly to Seville via train or plane the day we arrive. Stay four nights in Seville exploring Seville, Cordoba & Jerez/Cadiz. Depart Seville on Friday, exploring Arcos and the white villages on the way to Ronda. Leave Ronda on Saturday going to Granada visiting Alhambra at night. Spend two nights in Granada then drive to Nerja or Malaga for Monday night exploring the coast on the way. Leave from Malaga to Barcelona as planned on Tuesday.

We now have to determine where we stay in Nerja/Malaga area. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE. THIS PLAN IS DEFINITELY BETTER!
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Jul 25th, 2007, 09:02 AM
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Hi, rlm346 -
For what it's worth: I saw the Alhambra during both the day and at night, and for me, the experience of seeing it at night was the highpoint of a 3-week trip to central and southern Spain. I also spent a night in Ronda, and enjoyed it, but would not have traded the evening at the Alhambra for one in Ronda.
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Jul 28th, 2007, 12:08 PM
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Hello, RLM346, et al, Re Alhambra tickets. I checked out the site rlm http://www.alhambradegranada.org/gui...ntradas_en.asp & they have a link to purchase tix at www.alhambratickets.com Has anyone tried this? Is it safe? Thanks a lot. V McG'
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Jul 28th, 2007, 01:04 PM
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Regarding the Segovia hotels:
I've visited Segovia twice and stayed in 2001 at the Hotel Infanta Isabel and last year at the Hotel Partner Ayala Berganza. You can't beat the location at the Hotel Infanta Isabel and it was my first choice last year but it was booked. The Ayala Berganza is very nice though. It's not as centrally located - about a 10 minute walk from the Plaza Mayor, but it is very handy to the bus station and I was relying on public transportation. Have you checked the somewhat new La Casa Mudajar?

http://www.lacasamudejarsegovia.com/

I also tried to book there but they were full. It's literally around the corner from the Infanta and the Plaza Mayor.

I would definately spend enough time in Sevilla. You're visiting at a great time of year and this city is the heart and soul of Spain. Have you looked into visiting the sherry triangle bodegas? I'm particularly fond of Sanlucar de Barrameda. I visit Cadiz every year and it is my favorite city.

Did you consider visiting Girona when you are in Catalunya? It's a gem....medieval stone city with a great old quarter and the best preserved Jewish quarter in Spain.

One other comment: Not sure if I agree with your statement "beware of festivals"! My favorite time to visit a city is when they are having a festival. I'd say it is more "be Aware of festivals". Depending on the city and the size of the festival you may need to plan your hotel far in advance. I have had some of most most memorable experiences at large festivals (Semana Santa, La Merce, fall wine harvest in Logrono) and local festivals in small villages (Olite, Tordesillas). It just required advance planning.

Hope this helps!

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Jul 29th, 2007, 04:25 AM
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bvmcginnis, I believe if you follow the links at www.alhambratickets.com you eventually end up at the BBVA ticket purchase site which indicates they no longer sell tickets for dates after July. The http://www.alhambradegranada.org/gui...ntradas_en.asp link gives you links for both before the end of July (which sends you to the link discussed above and the BBVA site) or for after July to the servicaixa site. It is my impression that the Alhambra just changed agents. I purchased tickets for September without any problem however since I have not used them yet I don't know if there will be any problem. But it all seems legitimate.
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Jul 29th, 2007, 04:53 AM
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CathyM,
Segovia: La Casa Mudajar is also booked for the night we will be there. A spanish friend of ours recommended we stay at Palacio San Facundo in Plaza San Facundo, which is a few blocks from Plaza Mayor. We are now booked there. Are you familiar with that hotel?

Sevilla: We are staying four nights in Sevilla and planning day trips to Cordoba and Jerez/Cadiz. So we will have about 1.5 days plus all four nights for Sevilla itself. Is that enough time? If not we could make either of the day trips a half day trip and spend the remainder in Sevilla.

It sounds like we should also include Sanlucar de Barrameda in our trip to Jerez/Cadiz area.

We do have Girona on our list of possibilities although we may not have the time to do it justice. We want to go to Figueres and enjoy the coast and are only there for one night and about 1.5 days. We will keep it in mind and see how things work out.

I agree that BE AWARE OF FESTIVALS is a better way of titling my alert to future planners that hotels can get filled up fast at these times.

Thanks for your advise. Rich
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Jul 29th, 2007, 09:46 AM
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Looks like a great plan; The Alfonso in Seville is wonderful -- we loved it!

I was recently refused at the Infanta Isabel but one week before the trip I called them and they had a room. It is really ideally situated so do try again.

Beware that parking is awful in Figueres and the Dali museum is always packed.

In Ronda, spring for a superior room -- nį 13 is fantanstic!

In Granada we stayed both in town and at the Parador -- in town was lots of fun -- free tapas with drinks.

Try to see if there is any Flamanco in Jerez; we attended a wonderful, tear-producing production during a festival.

If you are an amigos at the paradors you get free parking
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Jul 29th, 2007, 11:37 AM
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In Granada, the Tapa is not free, but included in the price with the drink.
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Jul 29th, 2007, 12:58 PM
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I'm enjoying reading the help that you've gotten for your trip. My husband and I will be in Spain at about the same time (arrive on 9/24) with a similiar itinerary. We'll be there for 3 weeks with 6 nights in Madrid, the AVE to Sevilla for 5 nights, then fly to San Sebstian for 4 nights and fly to Barcelona for 4 nights. We'll do day trips to Toledo & Segovia from Madrid and to Cordoba and Granada from Sevilla. I know everyone's opinion here about staying in Granada and seeing the Alhambra at night(and that it's 12 hours as a day trip). We'll do the overnite on another trip. This is our first of many trips to Spain. Is it really necessary to buy the AVE tickets and Alhambra tickets now? I'm trying to be a little spontaneous in my schedule.
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Jul 30th, 2007, 10:41 AM
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Moxie: Thanks for the feedback. We will keep checking on the Infanta Isabel, have booked a superior room in Ronda and will become an amigos.

Lynnesm: I understand Alhambra does get booked but am as new to this as you are. We did not want to take a chance since we are driving there. The reservations are for morning or afternoon to the grounds but you are assigned a 1/2 hour slot for the palace (I found if you don't like the slot you can cancel and redo and they give you a differnt one). The good news is in the scheme of things the tickets are not that expensive if you decided to(and could) go a different day and could not change (I don't know exchange policy). Rich

I have received mixed feedback on AVE. Can be sold out but not usually; run frequently in most cases. Also, I understand you can change a ticket free for the same day if the time slot is available. We plan to book Madrid-Seville at the latest time we want to go and change to earlier if we can. They run every hour and we don't want to wait around the Station too long since we just flew in from the US. We plan to wait for our Cordoba day trip.
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Jul 30th, 2007, 10:45 AM
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Note altamiro's comment at:http://www.fodors.com/forums/pgMessa...=0&keyword=153
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Jul 30th, 2007, 02:47 PM
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Sorry but I do not know of the hotel in Segovia. Did you check reviews in TripAdvisor? I use this forum in addition to the Trip Advisor hotel feedback to factor into many of my hotel decisions.

I'd allow at least 3 full days for Sevilla. Maribel's guide is right on the mark.

I personally enjoy Sanlucar versus Jerez. Probably due to the location and the great tapa bars in the main square, Casa Balbino. On my last trip we had a great day visiting a bodega, sampling tapas in the Plaza Cabildo, then walking to the beach and enjoying langostinos de Sanlucar. The best bodega tour I have EVER been on is in Sanlucar, Pedro Romero. It is a small family-owned bodega. A couple of years ago I missed my appointment at the Bodegas Barbadillo and quickly searched my guidebook for a nearby bodega. Luckily, I visited Bodegas Pedro Romero. This tour is generally a small group of people and is very informative. At the end you sample the sherry right out of the barrel in the bodega - not a glass in a tasting room like the other bodegas. If you have Fernando as your guide he's the best.

http://www.pedroromero.es/ingles/principal.asp


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Jul 30th, 2007, 04:22 PM
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Thanks. I think I'll do the same-get the tickets for Madrid to Sevilla and wait on the shorter trips and make the arrangements for the Alhambra. Have a great time.
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