Question about wearing black clothes
#81
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Check these threads out, gone:
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34538238
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34532725
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34538238
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34532725
#82
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I just posted to this thread on the wrong thread LOL
Replying to tedgale ( handsome devil) and did not once look to see what thread it was !
Anyway-I am already growing tired of seeing <font color="pink">pink</font> wherever I look.
I am considering boycotting <font color="pink">pink</font>
And it does not hurt that I got a fantastic couple of handbags that are <font color="orange">orange</font> and a <font color="blue">blue</font>/<font color="green">green</font> Pucci print
Anyone want to discuss Handbags?
This also will re-inforce someones remarks that my head is "hallowed" LOL
Replying to tedgale ( handsome devil) and did not once look to see what thread it was !
Anyway-I am already growing tired of seeing <font color="pink">pink</font> wherever I look.
I am considering boycotting <font color="pink">pink</font>

And it does not hurt that I got a fantastic couple of handbags that are <font color="orange">orange</font> and a <font color="blue">blue</font>/<font color="green">green</font> Pucci print

Anyone want to discuss Handbags?
This also will re-inforce someones remarks that my head is "hallowed" LOL
#83
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ThinGorjus, I feel I must return and beg your Prada-sandaled forgiveness. Leely was right -- I was referring to you. Now, in going back to read a number of your previous posts I've gotten so tickled -- well, one has to over look a "manage-a-tois" here and a "Grenada" there. I'm trying to get a mental image and this this strange Patsy AbFab/Oscar Wilde composite is conjured up in my mind. Not sure which way to go with that one and it simply doesn't matter. I look forward to reading your future posts now that I can see the full picture and not just an admonishment to another poster to get off the Europe board. Now back to that bowl of gin . . . .
#84
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Well, when packing, it's best if everything "goes with" everything else, as you need far fewer pieces.
So, you just cannot do better than black "bottoms" (dress, skirt, slacks), along with tops (blouses, tees, camisoles, jackets, outerwear) in your favorite and most flattering colors. Not "all black, all the time".
For sure, no outfit must be all black. Though, in the fanciest of places,, especially evenings, when you observe others, no question that the ladies you'd most like to emulate are dressed "mostly" in black...
Black "bottoms" are just so practical. In fine fabrics, you fold or roll them up to pack, and they shake out virtually wrinkle free.
White, cream, beige, khaki "bottoms" are a nice change, but they get dirty quite quickly, when out and about all day, and just do not rinse out as nicely.
For me, when you're out and about all day, sitting all about, using public transportation (even taxis), black "bottoms" simply are more practical.
You can wear black slacks, for example, with a white or ivory or your favorite color tee/shell/camisole, and brightly colored sweater/jacket, and still look quite "refreshing". Most refreshing is the perfect mix, all summer long, of black and white.
As you've mentioned, a fine way to "add color" to your "total look" is with a purse/shoes in a "vibrant color".
Black is not so much "old and dowdy" as classy and practical.
So, you just cannot do better than black "bottoms" (dress, skirt, slacks), along with tops (blouses, tees, camisoles, jackets, outerwear) in your favorite and most flattering colors. Not "all black, all the time".
For sure, no outfit must be all black. Though, in the fanciest of places,, especially evenings, when you observe others, no question that the ladies you'd most like to emulate are dressed "mostly" in black...
Black "bottoms" are just so practical. In fine fabrics, you fold or roll them up to pack, and they shake out virtually wrinkle free.
White, cream, beige, khaki "bottoms" are a nice change, but they get dirty quite quickly, when out and about all day, and just do not rinse out as nicely.
For me, when you're out and about all day, sitting all about, using public transportation (even taxis), black "bottoms" simply are more practical.
You can wear black slacks, for example, with a white or ivory or your favorite color tee/shell/camisole, and brightly colored sweater/jacket, and still look quite "refreshing". Most refreshing is the perfect mix, all summer long, of black and white.
As you've mentioned, a fine way to "add color" to your "total look" is with a purse/shoes in a "vibrant color".
Black is not so much "old and dowdy" as classy and practical.
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Scarlett: How did you know I am a handsome devil?
Love the thought of you in orange.
But as one poster has advised, there are certain well-founded concerns about wearing orange, especially with the (equally strictured) green.
I think the advice was meant for you:
If, as I believe, you live in Florida, wearing orange and green together puts you at risk -- as a pedestrian.
Motorists might not see you, as you'd blend in too readily with the orange groves.......(LOL)
Love the thought of you in orange.
But as one poster has advised, there are certain well-founded concerns about wearing orange, especially with the (equally strictured) green.
I think the advice was meant for you:
If, as I believe, you live in Florida, wearing orange and green together puts you at risk -- as a pedestrian.
Motorists might not see you, as you'd blend in too readily with the orange groves.......(LOL)
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I know but what Scarlett writes she dresses in Black, but at my class reunion last year, the only woman who wore bright colors was from Florida and another from LA. I don't know any French women who wear black daily nor do most women. It drains color from your face.
tedgale you must be handsome, she told me so. (lock up your daughters-;-))
tedgale you must be handsome, she told me so. (lock up your daughters-;-))
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Just some thoughts...In upstate NY I saw a woman today raking her lawn. Her hair was orange, her t-shirt was orange, and her sneakers were orange. That was too much orange for me.
The only day I felt oddly dressed in Paris was the day I wore beige khakis and my beige London Fog jacket. Just too much beige; too much black would have been okay. I was more comfortable in jeans than that darn khaki. It was a wardrobe day that just couldn't work itself out, despite my black scarf.
Marilyn, thanks for posting the Muffin threads, they were a riot. I have to branch out from the Europe board, I am missing too much!
The only day I felt oddly dressed in Paris was the day I wore beige khakis and my beige London Fog jacket. Just too much beige; too much black would have been okay. I was more comfortable in jeans than that darn khaki. It was a wardrobe day that just couldn't work itself out, despite my black scarf.
Marilyn, thanks for posting the Muffin threads, they were a riot. I have to branch out from the Europe board, I am missing too much!
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Hi Cigale!
I thought muffin was missing, but when I went looking for those threads I discovered she had posted as recently as March. I'll have to see what she's been up to.
Elvira left a few years ago, around registration I think. Too bad.
I do wonder where Capo is.
I suddenly feel like an old-timer.
I thought muffin was missing, but when I went looking for those threads I discovered she had posted as recently as March. I'll have to see what she's been up to.
Elvira left a few years ago, around registration I think. Too bad.
I do wonder where Capo is.
I suddenly feel like an old-timer.
#94
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Especially for Gone --
The fact is that you'll always feel great wearing colors you love to wear. Travel just makes you focus a little more for purposes of packing somewhat efficiently, but definitely include at least some of your favorite colors.
For all those fascinated by the Jackie-in-yellow story. I grew up in the New York area, and crossed paths with her occasionally. She wore everything that suited her well-- knew her best silhouettes, favorite and best colors, which included everything from colors to neutrals. The point is to have enough self-respect and confidence to do as you please, but also to have respect for the situation or context.
My own "color" story happened in New York was a few years ago at Chanterelle -- a high end restaurant. It was a cold Christmas season, so I wore a holiday red dress instead of what I might have worn -- a black dress. When I got to the restaurant, EVERY woman in the room seemed to have a black dress on (unless there was some woman in the shadows going wild in deep navy.) When I took off my coat, heads actually turned and the room went a little quiet, and I heard a murmer off somewhere, "Red dress." That was, yet again, another night when I wore a more colorful dress and at least three men comlplmented me on how how great I looked (e.g. when I walked by the bar on the way to the ladies' room., etc. -- and believe me, I was not born a beauty.)
And yes, I LOVE pink. It's been popular, and continues to be popular, partly because it is a very flattering color on many people and makes you feel happy. It will NEVER be out of style, like a good black dress will never be out of style. Enjoy everything that makes you feel fabulous!
The fact is that you'll always feel great wearing colors you love to wear. Travel just makes you focus a little more for purposes of packing somewhat efficiently, but definitely include at least some of your favorite colors.
For all those fascinated by the Jackie-in-yellow story. I grew up in the New York area, and crossed paths with her occasionally. She wore everything that suited her well-- knew her best silhouettes, favorite and best colors, which included everything from colors to neutrals. The point is to have enough self-respect and confidence to do as you please, but also to have respect for the situation or context.
My own "color" story happened in New York was a few years ago at Chanterelle -- a high end restaurant. It was a cold Christmas season, so I wore a holiday red dress instead of what I might have worn -- a black dress. When I got to the restaurant, EVERY woman in the room seemed to have a black dress on (unless there was some woman in the shadows going wild in deep navy.) When I took off my coat, heads actually turned and the room went a little quiet, and I heard a murmer off somewhere, "Red dress." That was, yet again, another night when I wore a more colorful dress and at least three men comlplmented me on how how great I looked (e.g. when I walked by the bar on the way to the ladies' room., etc. -- and believe me, I was not born a beauty.)
And yes, I LOVE pink. It's been popular, and continues to be popular, partly because it is a very flattering color on many people and makes you feel happy. It will NEVER be out of style, like a good black dress will never be out of style. Enjoy everything that makes you feel fabulous!
#95
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I like pink but now that some guys are dressing in head-to-toe in pink, it's kind of turned me off. I'm not talking about the occasional pink shirt or pink tie, ala Trump, but pink jackets, caps, sneakers, pants - I think the fad started after some rapper (but don't know who it is).
#96
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You people are all great! I've enjoyed reading all the advice and opinions.
MadameX, I DO love to wear color. I'm a "winter" and love the vibrant colors. But I do seem to chose black dresses for evening. I can't seem to get away from that.
Marilyn , thanks for the Muffin posts. Too funny!!
SO many of you have a great sense of humor.
MadameX, I DO love to wear color. I'm a "winter" and love the vibrant colors. But I do seem to chose black dresses for evening. I can't seem to get away from that.
Marilyn , thanks for the Muffin posts. Too funny!!
SO many of you have a great sense of humor.
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i realize that in replying to this i'm reviving a long-dead thread, but i can't resist...
i'm planning a trip to london in september, and i've had a few wardrobe questions of my own, for several simple reasons: 1) i plan to pack VERY light, and so need to get the most "bang for my buck," and 2) being "appropriately" dressed means there's one less thing to worry about while on vacation.
the answers to the question, "what should i pack/wear?" do come down to very personal choices, but being interested in what's appropriate and practical doesn't necessarily make one a troll, nor a moronic airheaded sheep with nothing better to think about.
i've enjoyed reading HUNDREDS of threads about travels on these boards, but i'm shocked (although i shouldn't be) and disappointed by how nasty people seem to get over the simplest questions, even if the questioner does seem to be naive. (of course this doesn't apply to every answer; some people have been quite thoughtful and helpful.)
i'm honestly not sure which is worse, a genuine troll, or a handful of posters who think it's fun and appropriate to belittle others.
i think i'll stick to reading posts, and not asking questions; i'm a bit naive myself.
i'm planning a trip to london in september, and i've had a few wardrobe questions of my own, for several simple reasons: 1) i plan to pack VERY light, and so need to get the most "bang for my buck," and 2) being "appropriately" dressed means there's one less thing to worry about while on vacation.
the answers to the question, "what should i pack/wear?" do come down to very personal choices, but being interested in what's appropriate and practical doesn't necessarily make one a troll, nor a moronic airheaded sheep with nothing better to think about.
i've enjoyed reading HUNDREDS of threads about travels on these boards, but i'm shocked (although i shouldn't be) and disappointed by how nasty people seem to get over the simplest questions, even if the questioner does seem to be naive. (of course this doesn't apply to every answer; some people have been quite thoughtful and helpful.)
i'm honestly not sure which is worse, a genuine troll, or a handful of posters who think it's fun and appropriate to belittle others.
i think i'll stick to reading posts, and not asking questions; i'm a bit naive myself.
#98
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I'm with you, pixielily...there is an abundance of nasty remarks from those who apparently want to appear so well traveled that such a question is considered naive. I often come to this board, read the nasty remarks and can't help but think about that classic Rodney King quote following the LA riots "Can't we all just get along?"
When I went to Paris in September 2003, and continued on to Italy and places East...I was surprised that there was an ABUNDANCE of black being worn positively everywhere.
That said, I think black as a base color (black pants and shoes) are practical, because you can put it with anything, whether it's more black, red, whatever you like. When I went last time, I found that I blended in a bit better when I wasn't wearing my khaki travel pants, which will stay home the next time I go this September in favor of another pair of black slacks.
Also, I do think there is a very important distinction between spring/summer wear and winter/fall. Just like here in the States, it's hard to find someone wearing pink in November, and black is not that practical in the summer if you live somewhere that it gets over 75 degrees.
When I went last time, I wore brighter tops with my black pants, and had a gray sweater that went well with all of it. I am no fashionista, that's for sure, but comfort comes first, style second, and attempting to fit in with my Parisian counterparts a distant third.
But that's just me.
For all we know, hot pink will be "in" in December in Paris this year. LOL
Jules
When I went to Paris in September 2003, and continued on to Italy and places East...I was surprised that there was an ABUNDANCE of black being worn positively everywhere.
That said, I think black as a base color (black pants and shoes) are practical, because you can put it with anything, whether it's more black, red, whatever you like. When I went last time, I found that I blended in a bit better when I wasn't wearing my khaki travel pants, which will stay home the next time I go this September in favor of another pair of black slacks.
Also, I do think there is a very important distinction between spring/summer wear and winter/fall. Just like here in the States, it's hard to find someone wearing pink in November, and black is not that practical in the summer if you live somewhere that it gets over 75 degrees.
When I went last time, I wore brighter tops with my black pants, and had a gray sweater that went well with all of it. I am no fashionista, that's for sure, but comfort comes first, style second, and attempting to fit in with my Parisian counterparts a distant third.
But that's just me.
For all we know, hot pink will be "in" in December in Paris this year. LOL
Jules
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All this black clothes stuff is a lot of nonsense. Wear what you want to as long as it legal for the streets.
It reminds me of the joke about the American obsessed with "fitting in" while visiting Italy. He decided an expensive Italian suit would do the trick.
Unfortunately, the clothing store he wandered into had some large price tags on the suits. After nearly falling over in shock when he saw a €4,000 tag on a suit he liked, the manager made him an offer.
For only €1,000.00 he would let the American have a slightly imperfect suit. The coat lapel turned up and one sleeve was too short. But, if the American would tug on the coat sleeve and take his chin and smooth out the lapel, he would have the best suit in Italy for only €1,000 - an unbeatable price.
So the American, still obsessed with fitting in, bought the suit. As he walked down the street, rolling his head to smooth out the lapel and twitching his hand to pull on the sleeve, two Italian ladies happen to see him.
One remarked to the other: "Oh look at that poor crippled American, but doesn't he have on a nice suit."
It reminds me of the joke about the American obsessed with "fitting in" while visiting Italy. He decided an expensive Italian suit would do the trick.
Unfortunately, the clothing store he wandered into had some large price tags on the suits. After nearly falling over in shock when he saw a €4,000 tag on a suit he liked, the manager made him an offer.
For only €1,000.00 he would let the American have a slightly imperfect suit. The coat lapel turned up and one sleeve was too short. But, if the American would tug on the coat sleeve and take his chin and smooth out the lapel, he would have the best suit in Italy for only €1,000 - an unbeatable price.
So the American, still obsessed with fitting in, bought the suit. As he walked down the street, rolling his head to smooth out the lapel and twitching his hand to pull on the sleeve, two Italian ladies happen to see him.
One remarked to the other: "Oh look at that poor crippled American, but doesn't he have on a nice suit."

