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Old May 10th, 2005, 06:50 AM
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Including teh clothing you will wear on the flight you are talking about SIX pairs of pants. Way too many. As the others say - ditch 2 pair of jeans.

And you probably won't need the liner for your raincoat. Also, drop the dressy heels - take a pair of nice flats that serve double duty for dressy and daytime. A lot more practical than heels. I personally don't see why you need Eccos and sneakers. They serve the same purpose - comfortable walking shoes. So I'd take one of them and a pair of flats.

1 pair blue jeans, 1 pair black jeans, black pair from the pantsuit, 1 skirt or dress that goes w/ the pantsuit jacket and/or the jean jacket. Then add 5 to 7 tops that go w/ all of the slacks/skirt you will have enough outfits for weeks, let alone 10 days.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:15 AM
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Agree with much of the advice above.

Admittedly, it's **MY** perspective (but I have lots of fun in Europe,) I'd take out 2 pair of jeans, and pack a nice little packable dress to go with those heels. I like variety in my wardrobe, and I admit to being a "dress" person. There are so many attractive dresses made of matte jersey (Diane Von Furstenburg,Theory, etc.,) other knits (too many to mention,) chiffon-y things (maybe a sweater or wrap needed at this time of year) and "alternatives" (e.g. Miyake's crinkles, and so many of the boho looks around this spring.) All of these styles can pack into almost no space, need little ironing if at all, and give you a real contrast to jeans. If I read you correctly, perhaps nothing TOO dressed up, but better-than-daytime for a more festive feel than daytime tromping around the sights?

A lot has to do with where you think you'll be in the evening, whether a dress is your style, or if you think you'll want to wear it. Again, I like to have a little more variety so I don't feel like I'm wearing the same thing everyday. I usually change for evening activities in some way, which is why heels are fine for those outings, but not for general touring around during the day.
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'Should also mention: sometimes I pack heels are higher, but often I pack kitten heels. There are a lot of attractive kitten-heel slides that work well, and often take up even less room. I'm only 5'4", so anything too high looks a little ridiculous on me.
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I would take a dress/skirt in material that does not wrinkle, 2 pairs of jeans, clothes you can layer so that if the weather is warm or cold you will be fine. The rest all sounds good. I also prefer to have nice shoes/chic flats that are comfortable to walk around in because I think sneakers look so tacky. Have fun on your trip.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 08:17 AM
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My dears, the point of the 38-40 inch inseam is that the jeans gather around the ankle for a rock chic look. I must stress that these are not baggy jeans, and have a super skinny fit, and the leg openings are very narrow so they actually end up feeling shorter than a baggier pair. This look distinguishes them from high street jeans, and also other designer ones. Several pairs are available with lurex which works wonderfully for the evening.

Of course Dior Homme by Hedi Slimane is a very specific look - all his jeans/trousers this season have "baked in" creases, and even come with labels advising that one never irons/presses the garments - something that is actually exceptionally practical for everyday life as well as travel!

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Old May 10th, 2005, 09:08 AM
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Perhaps the world can be divided into those who require a label telling them not to iron their jeans, and those who would never think of it in the first place.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 11:14 AM
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Ok, with a 38" inseam, maybe it would work if I borrowed platform boots from Gene Simmons. Still will need the crutches after spraining both ankles.

I guess I'll keep buying my pants in the petites department (and I'm 5'6&quot
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Old May 10th, 2005, 12:13 PM
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The trouble is that you're thinking that the jeans are to be worn with a straight leg - they're designed to be worn with ruching/pleats all gathered around the ankles. This is very flexible and removes the need to ever worry about legs being too long/short.

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Old May 10th, 2005, 12:17 PM
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Uh oh, got bumped off line, so hopefully this won't post twice...

Thank you everyone, I am rethinking the heel thing. I have these Franco Sarto boots that I love and was thinking of taking them on our trip next January because they are very warm, would be good against rain, and are extrememly comfortable, eeewwwww, but hey do have a heel. So best not to.

To queserasera: I love my khakis too, my gap and jcrew, and actually I have a Ralph Lauren pair that I love too!

Also to all, on the jean thing, I ercently got a pair from the Lucky store that are soooooooooo comfortable. Love them.

Happy travels everyone, T.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 12:41 PM
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Has anyone noticed the OP has never posted on this thread again... I think you scared her off!
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Old May 10th, 2005, 12:51 PM
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I am planning a trip to Prague, Vienna & Budapest in the fall so I am considering these same issues. I am planning to bring boots with a "thick"/block heel. Does this sound reasonable? How about a wedge heel instead?

I know people can get testy about clothing issues but so far this thread seems civil!

Also, I agree with bringing a skirt/dress for nights.

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Old May 10th, 2005, 02:55 PM
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Christina has a good idea about the miniskirts. Miniskirts are always fun. Especially so, in this case, since you apparently aren't packing any underwear.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 04:44 PM
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I would LOVE to have a pair of 40 inch inseam jeans, but then I wear a 36 now. MK2, pray tell me where I can get them.

Oh, and on topic, 2 pair jeans, if one must wear jeans, sounds about right.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 05:59 PM
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'Must admit, I start from the point of the preferences of the initial question, and very much respect that. (Okay, up to Birkenstocks and sneakers in Paris, but I find that I never win those arguments.)

So in the interest of full disclosure, and perhaps some suggestions: In warm weather, I'm a dress and skirt person all the way, unless at the beach. The closest thing I have to denim jeans are black or white twill, but think denim looks good on others -- it's just not my thing. As for sneakers, to each her own. I only wear them for real sports occasions -- I feel much more polished in comfortable flats, especially in world-class cities. It's also easier to feel appropriate anywhere that spur-of-the-moment interests takes me.

But yes, something like early May in Scotland would require something different... 'Best to listen to those with most experience in Budapest, etc., but I still think of those as rather proper cities, i.e. you can get away with a range of apparel options, but the most appropriate or what makes you feel good are different issues. I like to live up to my surroundings; it makes travel more enjoyable for me.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 06:56 PM
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i say look at what you have and take half. jeans are durable/tough, one pair could go for a long time and with one khaki you're fine. i personally side w/ lightweight as when you walk long enough you tend to warm up in even slightly chilly temps.

and don't forget, if you're short an item or two that makes a great excuse to hit a store or two or three...

try to put your stuff in some kind of zip-lock bag to take the air out of it and that way you can reduce space by a lot.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:10 PM
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Tiff, I have some Franco Sarto boots too, (actually 3 or 4 pairs!) and I wore them quite happily in London. I didn't wear them around all day, but they were perfect in the evening. Enough heel to feel a bit dressier, but not so much that I couldn't walk evening distances in them pretty comfortably.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 01:23 AM
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Dior Homme boutiques in the US, and I don't think it's required to list European stockists, although I'd be only to delighted to do so. However, please bear in mind they are very slim fit, and only go up to a 34" waist in most styles.

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