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November complications for visitors to France (and not just visitors)

November complications for visitors to France (and not just visitors)

Nov 2nd, 2007, 03:33 AM
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Thanks kerouac -- I doubt my high school french will be good enough to translate strike information. I can barely find a restroom or order off the menu! Oh well. As long as Lauduree doesn't strike it will still be a successful trip. Thanks for all your help.
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Nov 3rd, 2007, 03:36 AM
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Thanks for keeping us informed.

much appreciated...

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Nov 3rd, 2007, 05:23 AM
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There is also a website devoted to French strikes, with links to specific other information (like to SNCF or RATP or whoever is involved). That is www.greves.org

It doesn't seem to have anything for the end of November though, and is only in French, of course.

I saw the Sarkozy interview on 60 Minutes, also, and agree that 60 Minutes (L Stahl) was the rude one. The only thing I thought in bad taste was him referring to his staff as imbeciles or whatever words he used, but the interview was fine. I t was hyped by 60 Minutes in ads to deliberately imply Sarkozy was a bad player and off-the-wall (which is why I even knew about it, so the ads worked), but Leslie Stahl was inappropriate in trying to press him about his personal life when he didn't want to talk about it. The interview was supposed to be about his Presidency. There really wasn't any other way to shut her up. Actually, I thought it was a positive thing that he stood up to intrusive, gossipy tabloid-like press interviews like that. I thought it made a good impression.
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Nov 5th, 2007, 05:17 PM
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Thanks kerouac for the head's up. We arrive on the morning of the 13th. We planned to take the RER in to the city. I hope this still is possible. It's disappointing to think the museums might be closed. I don't mind walking...I guess I'll hope for the best. Any updates you can share would be most ppreciated. thank you,
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Nov 5th, 2007, 05:43 PM
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Now I'm really worried. We leave on the 13th arrive morning of the 14th. We're staying in an apartment in the 14th on Raspail Blvd near Vavin metro. I'm wondering if we should cancel our trip. how bad will it be for a tourist at this time?
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Nov 5th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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I agree, I thought Sarkozy did the right thing walking out. I'm tired of interiews claiming to discuss issues and then turning tabloid. He said he didn't want to talk about it and she kept pushing and pushing, and I like others, could care less about his wife, the divorce, what ever.
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Nov 5th, 2007, 06:44 PM
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Mnay thanks for the info.

Arrive CDG in the morning of 14 Nov, plan to take train from Gare de Lyon to Auxeure, wonder what's the alternative?
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Nov 5th, 2007, 07:03 PM
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I arrive in Paris the 9th (next Friday) and leave the 18th and planned to take the RER both ways. From the gist of this thread it appears arrival will be okay but not departure?

Also, I was planning on heading out the Musee de l'Orangerie on the 14th. Guess I'll have to change that?
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Nov 5th, 2007, 07:57 PM
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I was in Paris during the October strike and have to say is was a huge pain. All museums were open, but most closed early by 2 hours. Several stores were also closed or closed early. I will never go to Paris during a Train/Metro strike. IMO Paris is not Paris without the Metro. I walked so much I needed Motrin, but I was determine to break even on the museum pass I had both two days before.

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Nov 5th, 2007, 08:03 PM
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Is the strike date firm? Are talks going on? Is there a chance some kind of settlement will be reached. Traveling to France 13 November, leaving 24 November.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 12:08 AM
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The strike is definitely on for the SNCF. 7 of 8 unions have called for a strike and the only union that is talking to SNCF management is the union that did not call for the strike.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 01:05 AM
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I was in Paris last month during the strike. I had a first timer with me and she had the normal first timer plans.

Fortunately we had an apt. in the 7th and I had her walk to Invalides and Rodin. Some were open and some closed. They all closed early. Those that have restaurants were very short of food.

For a couple days there was no way of knowing what lines were running. They did not run as often. We used a combination of metro and taxis. It worked out.

I think it appears that this next one is going to be much worse..sounds like it, anyway. Glad I will not be there.

If you are able to change your plans, I think I would. Otherwise, just do what you can..it is still Paris!!
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Nov 6th, 2007, 04:37 AM
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We arrive Paris on 11/20. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread prior to departure. I've also decided to drag along my laptop, which is something I never do. Bottom line is that unless Air France cancels our flight, we'll still have a great time. There's always something good to eat and a bottle of wine (or two) to drink.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 04:49 AM
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We were also in Paris in October during the first strike. Fortunately our hotel is in 6th eme and we basically walked everywhere during those couple of days.

For those of you who are going in November, here are a few pointers:

1) REconsider if you want to buy the Museum Pass or not. Our experience was that the smaller museums were closed, and the biggies have reduced opening hours.

2) Consider investigating how to do the Paris bicycle rental. There are many rental racks throughout the city and you can consider cycling if the Metro is not running.

3) Restaurants stayed open, but may have reduced staff (ie slower service).
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Nov 6th, 2007, 07:05 AM
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Our son is conducting a concert at Cite Musique in Paris on Nov. 16. Anyway of finding out whether it will be canceled?
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Nov 6th, 2007, 07:19 AM
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Kerouac: thanks for taking the time to post the information which i am sure will be appreciated by many.

Tedgale: a "gentleman" would never have let himself get INTO the kind of marital mess that your hero has.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 09:00 AM
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Oh my...we are going to Paris 11/16~11/24, right in the middle of this event. "We" are a group of 30 french students and some parents & teachers from Birmingham, AL and for most, it is our first time to Paris (not the teacher,she is from France). We were scheduled to have a private showing at St. Chappelle since we are such a large group. Sounds like we might have to do something else. Oh well...I'm sure we will have fun anyway. We are very centrally located so walking is not a big deal.

Kerouac...what would be some other sites or activities that you would reccomend for this group.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 10:10 AM
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I am not worried about anybody inside Paris itself. The entire city is walkable from one end to the other (especially for a student group), and there is never any problem finding things to do, even if the museums have shortened hours and the stores close earlier than usual.

There is absolutely no way of knowing now what the situation will be. Even the Paris metro unions have not yet announced their intentions, even if their intentions are somewhat predictable, and they will probably align themselves with the SNCF unions (Keep in mind that metro line 14 is fully automated and will be running as normal no matter what. The southern end goes to Chinatown, so this would be a good and completely different place to visit if museums are closed, for example.).

As I already mentioned, I am flying out of Paris on November 13th (I swear it is a complete coincidence!), so I will not be around to guide people through the strike unless it is still going when I come back on the 21st.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Thanks for your response. I posted another titled "Striking Parisians" since this thread had made it down the line. I'm sure we will have fun...the bike rentals should really skyrocket!
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Nov 6th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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If anyone has any advice for me - I'd appreciate it! We will arrive at CDG on the evening of the 13th - around 6:30 PM...just before the strike begins.

We will arrive with three little girls - all of whom are great travelers - but all will be extremely tired after an all day cross country flight, an overnight red eye to Munich, a day in Munich waiting for our Paris flight and then our arrival.

We are staying at Rue LaPat on Montmarte and had planned to take the train and then the metro to our destination.

What, if anything, can I do to plan for this collision of small girls, sleep deprivation, and French politics?!?

Thanks in advice for your help! And thanks to Kerouac for his posts - they are the best I have seen on this topic.

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