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November complications for visitors to France (and not just visitors)

November complications for visitors to France (and not just visitors)

Nov 6th, 2007, 03:32 PM
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I would suggest that you make a reseration with one of the van shuttle services - now! I understand the yellow shuttle is reliable - also contact your hotel and ask them to reserve for you. probably a credit card will work.

Another subject - is there any word on an Air France strike to add to the maddness. need to leave Paris on the 14th. I'll make a hotel reservation now if there is even a hint of a strike. thanks everyone who is working hard to keep us all informed
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Nov 6th, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Peppermintpatty, about the shuttle ... I arrived at CDG mid-morning on the 18th of October, the day the trains stopped last month. I had a reservation with Yellow Shuttle, so I called their toll-free number on arrival, as instructed when you reserve with them. The line was busy and remained so through about 15 attempts.

I abandoned the shuttle plan and joined a huge queue for a taxi. Much to my surprise, the line moved at a walking pace and I was in a taxi to Gare de l'Est within 10 minutes.

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Nov 6th, 2007, 08:03 PM
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Many thanks to all for all the timely information regarding the upcoming strikes. We have decided to cancel. We were due to be in Paris, Adjou and Lyon from 13 Nov-24 Nov. We are too old to deal with this and don't like riding bikes in the cold!
Merci beacoup to all.
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Nov 6th, 2007, 10:30 PM
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Hi sox, don't blame you for that but it's too late for me to pull out, onward and upward. See my post on Paris Day Trips, have changed the itinerary slightly and off to Germany on the 12th to clear away from Paris, back on the 23rd to Paris so hope all is relatively normal by then.
Hats off to Kerouac for posting on my thread or I would not have known and been able to change my train bookings which I have now done.
What an enormous help Fodors website is.
Kerouac, what happens with regards to transport to and from the airports during these strikes?
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Nov 6th, 2007, 10:52 PM
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During the last strike, I think that only the Air France buses were running normally. The RER B from the airport was closed for the entire week. The Roissybus to Opéra did not run for a few days. I would imagine that bus lines 350 (to Gare de l'Est) and 351 (to Nation) were running on a reduced schedule.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 04:49 AM
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I've decided if the RER isn't running I'll take either the AF bus or Roissybus into town then catch a bus to my hotel.

As long as the Musee de l'Orangerie is open, even at reduced hours, I'm there!
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Nov 7th, 2007, 06:52 AM
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We have also decided to forge ahead with our plans (perhaps foolishly but no guarantee Paris will be strike-free next time we can both get away.) Once we find our way to our hotel we are walkable from St. Germain to much of what we'd like to do. Perhaps the strike will force us to not overdo it and to plan a return trip.

We will pack comfortable shoes, warm clothes and plan to walk alot. My 17-year-old will be fine - I will plan to caffeine up as necessary

Please continue to keep us posted with ideas for transport and news on museum hours etc.

Can't thank you enough Kerouac for your public servie updates in the English language.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 07:11 AM
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I didn't read the entire thread carefully, but I'm planning a few hours in Paris on Nov. 22 before flying to Athens (on Olympia). Are there issues I should be aware of?

Will the civil servants strike spill over to Nov. 22? I do plan to go to a few museums. Are all museums affected? I'm planning on Jeu de Paume, Musee du Luxembourg and possibly Grand Palais.

I'm flying AA to Paris and Olympic from Paris to Athens. I assume flights will be ok?

Thanks very much.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 10:05 AM
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I can tell that a lot of you are getting really impatient for strike news, but it would be foolish to speculate about the future. My own feeling is that things are looking bad, because the government is using 'Margaret Thatcher' vocabulary rather than admitting that any of the complaints are legitimate. However, I would not take any bets on the outcome. As many of you may have noticed with the election of Sarkozy 6 months ago, it's a whole new ballgame (note that he dropped another 4 points in this week's poll but he is still well above 50% approval).

Meanwhile, the students of 30 French universities are currently on strike. For those who remember May 1968, it is something to watch.

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Nov 7th, 2007, 10:16 AM
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My group (30) is going to forge ahead as well. We have been planning this trip since June and everything is paid for. We are now looking at this trip as a weight loss opportunity. Walk alot, ride bikes and loose weight in the gastronomic capital of the world. Gotta look at the glass half full!

Viva La France!
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Nov 7th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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Mr. Kerauoc,
I am deeply grateful for all your timely responses in this forum as well as others. I would be delighted to take you to dinner if ever you are in Chicago.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 11:21 AM
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"Meanwhile, the students of 30 French universities are currently on strike."

Cutting off their own noses to spite their faces. How does a student not going to class affect the government?
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Nov 7th, 2007, 11:58 AM
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The government has been making major changes to the university system relating to their autonomy, and it is considered (by those opposing the changes) that the objective is to create universities totally controlled by large corporations and dispensing an education based exclusively on corporate needs.

I am not qualified to say whether or not this is true or whether or not it is good or bad. However, if one looks at from the standpoint of losing one's educational freedom and becoming a company robot to earn as much money as possible, period, then it is not difficult to understand why students are not happy.

At the moment, 10 universities are completely closed down with growing disruptions in numerous other ones.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 12:57 PM
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Kerouac et al--
Are we crazy to try to go to Versailles on Nov 13 departing republique station at 12noon? Would it be possible to get back before the strike starts? ( We are arriving at CDG at 10am.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 01:03 PM
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I would say that as long as you leave Versailles before 8 pm, there shouldn't be a problem. And anyway, night falls at 6 pm at this time of year.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 01:25 PM
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I agree with Kerouac, returning from Versailles to Paris on the 13th shouldn't be a problem. From my experience (8 years in 'la region parisienne') the strike won't start precisely at 8 pm, and at least some trains will continue to run until the system shuts down for the night. The big disruption will start the morning of the 14th ... causing utter misery for families like mine who rely on public transit to get to work and school!
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Nov 7th, 2007, 03:18 PM
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We are going forward with our plans to arrive the morning of the 14th. We have arranged for pickup at the airport and will do our best to enjoy Paris until Nov 24th. My thanks to kerouac on his posts and updates.
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Nov 7th, 2007, 04:24 PM
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kerouac and lafitte

Thanks for your input. Hopefully my two sister who have never been to Europe will be able to enjoy Versailles and Paris (inspite of the strikes.)
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Nov 7th, 2007, 07:06 PM
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Off to Paris tomorrow luckly just missing the worst of the strike later next week - some times you just "step into it".

any word on Air France strike like in Oct. Going back to US on the 14th evening. Of course when you call AF "all is OK" as you can never get anything close to a real
answer. Don't mind that I would need to stay an extra day but would like to plan just a little.
A big thanks to Kerouac for all of the very up to date info - Merci
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Nov 7th, 2007, 07:24 PM
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And in the Paris suburbs, the low rate is from 22h to 6h. Presumably, suburbanites have to get up earlier to go to work in the big city and they have to go to bed earlier for the same reason.

This is not quite right. You can choose the heures pleines/heures creuses schedule and opt for instance for 1.30 am to 7.30 am plus 12.30 pm to 2.30 pm which is fine for housewifes.
Besides not everybody is on a heures creuses/heures pleines schedule. You need to have a lot of electric appliances to start saving money and to be able to use them during heures creuses.
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