Madrid or Milan
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goodness. That's a very broad question, Norbert. What made you choose Milan or Madrid? What have you heard/read about either of them which makes you think they will appeal? and when and for how long do you want to go? What do you like to do?
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I'd ask about time of year and your interests.
So for football, both have good teams.
For art, both have great world class museums.
For users of public transport I think I might choose Milan
Also for great cemetries and canals I'd choose Milan
For outdoor theatre and opera I'd choose Madrid
For the best central old town I'd choose Madrid
Slalom canoeing I'd choose Madrid
Roller blading I think Madrid
So for football, both have good teams.
For art, both have great world class museums.
For users of public transport I think I might choose Milan
Also for great cemetries and canals I'd choose Milan
For outdoor theatre and opera I'd choose Madrid
For the best central old town I'd choose Madrid
Slalom canoeing I'd choose Madrid
Roller blading I think Madrid
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You said visit or vacation. What do you like to do when you visit a city or country or on vacation? For me, that is two different things. I like walking, seeing interesting churches, museums, markets, etc, but on vacation I like reading, eating, walking on the beach, theater.
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I would likely choose Madrid because the Cathedral in nearby Toledo is one of my favorites in the world and the Prado in Madrid is one of the great museums. I spend hours there on every trip.
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I agree Ann, magical place.
Our Italian friends lived in "little Italy" in Madrid near the embassy. We found the Sorollo house by chance which is always the best way.
I spent 30 years wondering why anyone would want to go to Madrid and then was forced into a visit 3 years ago - probably my largest travel surprise of all. It's just such a confident, relaxed, partying town. Those Italian friends, who ironically have worked in Turin and Milan previously, think that Madrid's vibe comes from the fact that it over-taxes the other provinces and lives off that wealth. Who knows, we loved it.
I was so linguistically bombed out that trip, no idea whether the next cafe would be Italian or Spanish speaking or a mix of the two. The area around the Italian embassy in Madrid is very Italian.
Our Italian friends lived in "little Italy" in Madrid near the embassy. We found the Sorollo house by chance which is always the best way.
I spent 30 years wondering why anyone would want to go to Madrid and then was forced into a visit 3 years ago - probably my largest travel surprise of all. It's just such a confident, relaxed, partying town. Those Italian friends, who ironically have worked in Turin and Milan previously, think that Madrid's vibe comes from the fact that it over-taxes the other provinces and lives off that wealth. Who knows, we loved it.
I was so linguistically bombed out that trip, no idea whether the next cafe would be Italian or Spanish speaking or a mix of the two. The area around the Italian embassy in Madrid is very Italian.
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OTOH, Italy is overwhelmingly beautiful with great food. Near Milan there are the Lakes and lovely smaller towns, which are, IMHO, Italy’s real charm.
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If you are a huge architecture fan and love high-end dining - Madrid would be my recommendation. Like BritishCiacos, we were overwhelmed with Madrid (visited it twice), and underwhelmed with Milan (except for the cathedral). High end fashion (Milan) has no appeal for us.
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<<If you are a huge architecture fan and love high-end dining - Madrid would be my recommendation. Like BritishCiacos, we were overwhelmed with Madrid (visited it twice), and underwhelmed with Milan (except for the cathedral). High end fashion (Milan) has no appeal for us.>>
I'm not sure that I would describe what i like as "high end" dining exactly, Stu, but certainly the standard of food in Madrid [and Toledo] was excellent and if you use the "open Table' app can be obtained at very reasonable prices especially at lunchtime, if you take advantage of the menu de dia which is already a bargain. And of course it's possible to have a meal of delicious tapas for a very reasonable cost.
<<Now, another reason to return. I have been to Spain four times, Madrid twice. It was one of the last countries I went to in Europe. It should have been one of the first because it was a big wow for me. The only place I really wanted to see was Toledo, but ended up loving the Prado, Granada, the Coast, the olive groves, sunflowers and markets and the people I met. Pretty much everything. >>
On my last visit to Madrid, Sassafrass, I went nowhere near the "top three" museums but as well as seeng the temporary Leonardo exhibition, I went to the Sorolla house, the Museum of Romanticism, the Real Monasterio de las Descalzas Reales, [temp. closed I think] as well as spending a night in Toledo. Loads of others I still haven't seen, mostly in historically interesting buildings too. And as Stu says the overall architecture of Madrid is extremely impressive.
I'm not sure that I would describe what i like as "high end" dining exactly, Stu, but certainly the standard of food in Madrid [and Toledo] was excellent and if you use the "open Table' app can be obtained at very reasonable prices especially at lunchtime, if you take advantage of the menu de dia which is already a bargain. And of course it's possible to have a meal of delicious tapas for a very reasonable cost.
<<Now, another reason to return. I have been to Spain four times, Madrid twice. It was one of the last countries I went to in Europe. It should have been one of the first because it was a big wow for me. The only place I really wanted to see was Toledo, but ended up loving the Prado, Granada, the Coast, the olive groves, sunflowers and markets and the people I met. Pretty much everything. >>
On my last visit to Madrid, Sassafrass, I went nowhere near the "top three" museums but as well as seeng the temporary Leonardo exhibition, I went to the Sorolla house, the Museum of Romanticism, the Real Monasterio de las Descalzas Reales, [temp. closed I think] as well as spending a night in Toledo. Loads of others I still haven't seen, mostly in historically interesting buildings too. And as Stu says the overall architecture of Madrid is extremely impressive.
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Following along as Madrid is on our list for 2022 for 3 days : the Prado, old city center, architecture, Royal Palace. Then we were thinking about heading to Malaga or Seville for 2 nights for a taste of southern Spain before we go to Lisbon but will look at Toledo instead!
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<<Following along as Madrid is on our list for 2022 for 3 days : the Prado, old city center, architecture, Royal Palace. Then we were thinking about heading to Malaga or Seville for 2 nights for a taste of southern Spain before we go to Lisbon but will look at Toledo instead!>>
Irice - IMO with only 2 nights Toledo would be a much better fit with Madrid - it's about an hour on the train so you could be there and booked into your hotel in time for a late ie Spanish normal time lunch whereas getting to Seville or Malaga would take you most of a day. Also either of them really requires at least 3 nights if not longer whereas Toledo fits into a 1½ day itinerary perfectly.
Irice - IMO with only 2 nights Toledo would be a much better fit with Madrid - it's about an hour on the train so you could be there and booked into your hotel in time for a late ie Spanish normal time lunch whereas getting to Seville or Malaga would take you most of a day. Also either of them really requires at least 3 nights if not longer whereas Toledo fits into a 1½ day itinerary perfectly.
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