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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 01:16 AM
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Algiubagio on the Fondamenta Nove has a pontoon with a good view of San Michele, the other islands, and the Dolomites on a clear day. They serve mostly fish, both raw and cooked. I love places that set their tables with Murano water glasses.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 07:38 AM
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<Ah yes rialtogrl. The english BAR menu. Otherwise known as the gauche tourist menu. Do note, it is only served from 3-7pm. Guess who they expect to see during those hours. The tourists who come to gauk, not residents of the hotel.>

Here's the ITALIAN menu
http://assets.danielihotelvenice.com...eliMenu_IT.pdf

I've never seen "gauking tourists" up there - I've seen well heeled Italians eating club sandwiches though. Really. I don't think too many people staying outside the hotel would even know the terrace bar is up there.

Note to the OP - if your hotel budget has jumped several hundred euros, consider staying at Danieli. If not, the terrace bar is a great place to have an expensive glass of wine with a stunning view.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Hotel al Ponte Mocenigo. The Jr Suite was, I believe, the most expensive room at 170E a night. If you don't need a large room like that they go down from there (last stay was May 2012). 180 dollars is about 135E and I am pretty sure at least a few of their rooms will be in that range. Nice hotel with all mod cons.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 12:55 PM
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We enjoyed the bar just beside the bridge over the canal, where the gondolas are.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 12:56 PM
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Look, we stayed at the Danieli when we first had our Starwood account in 2000.

Perhaps things change, but we were in the same clothes for three days. Luggage somewhere in CDG.

Had fun with the concierge until our luggage arrived.

So perhaps thing's have change but no one cared about how we were dressed at that time.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 12:59 PM
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That is because you were guests.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 01:04 PM
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Thanks thin. That was one of our first use of our Starwood account at 50% off prevailing rates.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 01:36 PM
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<i><font color=#555555>"La Calcina is a wonderful hotel on the Giudecca canal that is within your budget."</font></i>

Not anymore. La Calcina's prices now reflect its book-2-years-in-advance popularity. (It is a wonderful hotel. One of the best in Venice.) The cheapest double is $220 a night, and that's in Low Season with no view. (at the current exchange rate)
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 04:12 PM
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To return to the original question:
<< Tell me if you loved where you stayed in Venice or what to avoid. Share the names of authentic and delicious Italian restaurants in Venice. >>

Thin has recommended La Zucca – we have not eaten there, but it is well recommended. The location near Campo San Giacomo is great. That campo is delightful, like a neighborhood lounge room, full of little kids playing there in the late afternoon. If you walk from the campo down Calle del Tentor, there’s a bar on your right that pours a good spritz, also an Ae Oche pizza place, a companion place to the Ae Oche on the Zattere. Not exceptional pizzas, but OK for an easy meal. Pizza for two, plus half a litre of the house will cost about 25 – 28 euro, and you’ll be well fed.

What to avoid – there will be howls of protest. My opinion – draw a line on your map from P. Roma to the San Basilio vaporetto stop at the west end of the Zattere, and don’t stay anywhere west of that line. That part of Venice is newer, apartment blocks from the 1960’s, and not very charming, not many places to eat, and that’s where the Venice prison is located. Depending on how long you have in Venice, it probably makes sense to not stay east of the Arsenale, because of the walking involved.

We have stayed near Campo San Giacomo and enjoyed it. However, we prefer the area around Campo San Barnaba, for no really good reason, we just feel more at home there. The area between the Academe and the Guggenheim is good, not crowded as it is a bit of a back-water, yet still interesting.

Here’s an article about bars in Venice. Cantinone-già Schiavi is our vavourite.
http://www.theguardian.com/travel/20...ne?INTCMP=SRCH
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 09:31 AM
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I don't like Campo San Barnaba.

It is too small and hot. There are no trees, no benches to sit on (that I noticed anyway.)

There is usually someone there with a table with jumble sale going on. Junk.

I like Campo Margarita much better with its shade trees, benches, and nosono.

Another nice Campo is Santa Maria Formosa.

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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 01:16 PM
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Getting back to the original question: try Hotel Serenissima, not far from the Rialto Bridge. I stayed there several years ago, but it still gets good reviews on TripAdvisor.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 01:26 PM
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By the way, I've been a gawker in the Danieli! Just walked in to look around, but stayed at the Westin Europa and Regina. I even took pictures! I was a total tourist. Glad they didn't try to throw me out!
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 03:55 PM
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<< I don't like Campo San Barnaba.

It is too small and hot. There are no trees, no benches to sit on (that I noticed anyway.)
There is usually someone there with a table with jumble sale going on. Junk.
I like Campo Margarita much better with its shade trees, benches, and nosono. >>

Thin, correct. No benches and no shade (other than umbrellas). People selling junk, or taking up the anti-drugs petition. We stayed near there in Winter, and there was ice in the campo, no junk sales, so it seemed more friendly. Venice changes from campo to campo and season to season, the way that each parish has its own distinct character. Still an intimate city, despite the huge number of visitors (I dare not call them “tourists”, so common).

S.M. Formosa. Etymology, from the Latin, “formosus”, beautifully formed. Santa Maria of the liberally endowed, always makes me smile.

How come there are no Gorgus fashion tips any more? I always found them most useful, invaluable when packing one’s luggage.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 04:38 PM
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NYCFoodSnob - thanks for the message about La Calcina. Before I posted, I checked a random date in October and it showed 140 euros per night. I'm not seeing that rate now. Maybe I was looking at a single room.

It is a great hotel - mental note filed.

Good thing there are plenty of other suggestions.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 05:26 PM
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No fashion tips because it was way too hot this summer in Venice to dress.

Keith and were in Manhattan last week to see the James Turrell exhibit at the Guggenheim.

We walked down Madison to Barney's and everyone was dressed like they just rolled out of bed.

Not an Hermes bag in sight. No Prada.

Too hot and sticky to bother.

Thin
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Old Aug 6th, 2013, 02:43 PM
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Yes, gaukers are welcome azure but not in groups. So all those on cruises or bus tours following their guide with the red umbrella around, sorry, not for you.

Azure, upstairs, club sandwiches or cheese and ham toasties. You can eat as 'weel heeled italians' do. Albiet, well heeled italians with no taste.
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Old Aug 6th, 2013, 03:02 PM
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I find it hard to believe you just walked right into the Danieli past the doorman.

As noted above the Danieli has a doorman for security reasons. There are so many tourists who try to use their restrooms that they have to screen visitors.

If you were dressed properly and told security that you were going to the bar for a drink that I can see but I don't believe for one second you just wandered in and went for a tour of the hotel.

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Old Aug 6th, 2013, 03:17 PM
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Pepper - you may not believe it, but I did. Perhaps I just looked confident 'cos I didn't know it was "against the rules". No one stopped me or said anything to me at all. It was the middle of November; maybe they're not as vigilant then.
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Old Aug 7th, 2013, 08:07 AM
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Pepper, do you really think the doorman stops everyone trying to enter and asks, 'Are you a guest here?'

Believe me, that would not be tolerated by the GUESTS. I think azzure has given you the right answer when s/he says, "Perhaps I just loooked confident"

As I wrote, well behaved gaukers are allowed, groups are not. If you wear hemp clothing and have dreadlocks, chances are you would indeed by stopped and questioned but an individual or couple or even 2 couples simply walking in will have no problem. You are right in saying IF stopped a simple, 'we want to have lunch or go to the bar' will suffice to get in. It's a hotel, not an exclusive club. The restaurants and bar are open to the public, not just guests.
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Old Aug 7th, 2013, 08:10 AM
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Anyway, how is the OP doing on suggestions for a 'good' hotel IN Venice for $180 a night.

My tongue in cheek suggestion of the Danielli was intended to convey the point that no 'good' hotels can be found at $180. It wasn't intended to start a discussion of the doorman's duties. LOL
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