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Old Jun 27th, 2023 | 04:31 PM
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Home base for one month in Spain w/ 4-year old?

My wife and I want to spend June of 2024 in Spain to begin to expose our (then) 4-year old to the language and foreign cultures. I would be grateful for recommendations on what city/town to use as our 'base'. We would take some day and weekend trips, but would spend most of our time in one city to enjoy a slower pace of travel and get a better feel for that place.

We enjoy history and beautiful architecture, and definitely want a city with a distinctly Spanish feel. We also love green spaces and access to nature and hiking. Parks, playgrounds, other kid things would be nice, and some place to swim - community pool, lake, beach, etc. - would be phenomenal. We understand that any cool place will have plenty of tourists, but we'd hope to avoid a place that is defined by crowds of tour groups. We also would like a place that is fairly easy to enjoy on foot or local public transportation and well-connected by bus and train to other cities of interest. I'd be open to renting a car for a couple of weekend trips to less connected places, but we'd hope to use buses and trains for the rest. Affordability is definitely a plus as we have a moderate budget. We'd prefer to avoid the hot temps of southern Spain and the crowds of many of the beaches, so are looking more at the interior and the north. As far as city size, we'd prefer a small to medium-sized city (maybe 50k-500k), although what is more important is having the right balance of less traffic and walkability + connectivity and plenty to do. A tough balance to find!

Through my early research, I have looked at several places in Castile and Leon, including but not limited to Burgos, Salamanca, and Avila. I have also looked at Oviedo, Santander, A Coruña, Santiago de Compostela, and a few other places across Galicia, and northcentral Spain. I am certainly open to suggestions about places that I haven't mentioned. Thanks so much for your expertise!
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Old Jun 27th, 2023 | 11:46 PM
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Girona, not far from an international airport and large city, but far enough away to be its own place, lots of things to do but also a modern city around a medievel city. Near the coast but not heavily touristified. Near enough to France to offer you another international opportunity.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 05:07 AM
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Thanks, Revulgo! León and Gijón are places I have given a quick look but need to learn more about. Would you recommend León over Burgos? If so, why? What about Gijón relative to Oviedo? Thanks again!
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 05:11 AM
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Thanks, bilboburgler! Love the Tolkien reference. I hadn't looked at Girona because of two concerns that maybe you could address. First, two what extent is the dominant language Catalan vs. Castilian Spanish? I speak Spanish fluently and love to practice it and we want our child to learn more than what she can currently do at home in small town Massachusetts. Second, my impression was that Catalonia is fairly pricey relative to other parts of Spain. Do you think that is a fair assessment?

Girona certainly checks lots of other boxes in what we are looking for and I do like the proximity to France. How is the hiking nearby? Is there decent access to the Pyrenees?
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 05:35 AM
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Girona is fantastic but they are pretty fierce about speaking Catalan. I am not sure I would pick that city as a place to practice Spanish.

Have you looked at Zaragoza? It is a wonderful city, on the fast train line between Madrid and Barcelona, and not too pricey. It has a bigger population than your other choices but it doesn't seem that big, in the older part of town.

But you have a lot of choices - and really good ones that you are already considering. It will be hard to decide.



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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 07:05 AM
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The only other place I was thinking about in the north that haven't been mentioned that might be worth checking out is Oviedo. My first thought was Bilbao or San Sebastian but then you will probably be getting Basque along with Spanish. We lived in Mexico for two years and our Mexican landlords spent a lot of time in Oviedo and loved it. It looks to have around 225,000 population. Bilbao is about double that and I think probably too big for what you are thinking and San Sebastian is quite a bit smaller but I am afraid it might feel too touristy and skews kind of old, and I think you feel the Basque language influence pretty strongly there. Of your list, I would happily spend more time in Salamanca although in June in all the places you listed I would probably want A/C.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 08:34 AM
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León and Burgos are two cities that share many similar characteristics, both are historic cities with superb Gothic cathedrals, both have an authentic Spanish atmosphere with shops and tapas bars packed with locals. My heart, without being able to say a well-founded reason, leans slightly towards León, but Burgos is better as a base to visit other cities. It has trains and buses to visit Bilbao, San Sebastián, Vitoria, Logroño...
Oviedo and Gijón are very close to each other, barely half an hour by bus, so it is very easy to visit both. I prefer Gijón because is on the seaside, it has the long San Lorenzo beach and other smaller beach, a small port that currently only admits small recreational boats and a very pleasant promenade that from the end of the San Lorenzo beach goes along a rocky seaside.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 09:32 AM
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I've never found that any Spaniard would forcefully speak to me in non-Castillian if he/she can speak it (I speak it only poorly), but then I'm not Spanish. I've found all Spaniards extremely friendly and happy to seek out joint languages even the Basque who was helping me get my open top sport car off a man hole cover. Given that there are at least 5 language schools in Girona which include teaching the "hated" Castillian why would even fervent nationalists not welcome the chance to talk to a foreigner?

I've never even had that in Wales and, if I'm anything to a Welsh parson, then I'm English.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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You've had lots of wonderful suggestions, so I hope that you will forgive me if I add Valencia into the mix. A beautiful and vibrant city, lots of green space, the nearby Arts and Science complex complete with a wonderful aquarium, the beach of course and plenty of day trips by train. And very walkable.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 04:14 PM
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Thanks, jpie! This is a lot of great food for thought. I came across some other good references to Oviedo and - as Revulgo - has highlighted - nearby Gijon is also a nice option. I also like that both cities are only a short drive away from a weekend exploring Picos de Europa.
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Old Jun 28th, 2023 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks, annhig! It's a region I have yet to visit and haven't researched. I have heard from others that it is good for kids and having the Mediterranean right there is great for our daughter. Valencia is quite a lot larger than we would prefer. Could you recommend any smaller cities nearby that would still be somewhat well-connected?
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Old Jun 29th, 2023 | 03:48 AM
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I'm not a local, [I've only been twice] but I'm sure that there would be some pleasant places nearby where you could base yourselves. For example we did a day trip to Sagunto which is about 30 mins by train to the north; a nice residential town with a massive castle and 15 mins by car from the beach.
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Old Jun 30th, 2023 | 11:19 PM
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You could choose Vitoria-Gasteiz, which was the European Green Capital 2012. Due to its location, Vitoria-Gasteiz is an excellent base to visit, by train or bus, Bilbao, San Sebastián, Pamplona, Burgos and the La Rioja wine region.
https://tourism.euskadi.eus/en/top10...aa30-12376/en/
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