Good news day for Venice
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Good news day for Venice
At last - some restrictions on enormous cruise ships visiting Venice: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-...entre/11398434
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They're not banned from visiting at all, just from the Grand Canal/centre and sent to a mooring a bit further away than at present. And it's been phased in over several years because they have to build new facilities for docking at Marghera: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8044026.html
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The wake of those large ships was damaging the historic buildings. Cruise passengers may grab lunch but they are staying in hotels and dining in the evening. We now try to avoid waterfront towns and cities where cruise ships stop.
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I still have to see a big ship going up the Canale Grande.
And I wonder why a city like Venice built a massive cruise port infrastructure and then wonders why big cruise ships go there.
If they had not built it, there would not have been big ships.
Homemade problems, I would say.
And I wonder why a city like Venice built a massive cruise port infrastructure and then wonders why big cruise ships go there.
If they had not built it, there would not have been big ships.
Homemade problems, I would say.
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I don't know where that news item came from. I've searched all Italian news services and don't see anything on new regulations about giant cruise ships since the last two accidents, the most recent over a month ago. I also don't think the Italian (national) government has any way to impose such a rule.
As someone else pointed out above, any ban would have await the opening of an alternative channel, which doesn't seem to be proceeding with celerity.
The local government depends for a substantial portion of its budget on the cruise ships, which don't get to sail up the St. Mark's Canal and the Giudecca Canal for free. So they are a bit lukewarm on the idea of banning the cruise ships. Also vendors of pizza slices, gelato, and fake Murano glass are opposed to any such ban.
The most radical proposal I've heard is a restriction on the size of the cruise ships that can pass in the center of Venice. That was not recent. If anyone can point me to a first-hand source, preferably Italian, for this article, I'll be grateful to know about it.
As someone else pointed out above, any ban would have await the opening of an alternative channel, which doesn't seem to be proceeding with celerity.
The local government depends for a substantial portion of its budget on the cruise ships, which don't get to sail up the St. Mark's Canal and the Giudecca Canal for free. So they are a bit lukewarm on the idea of banning the cruise ships. Also vendors of pizza slices, gelato, and fake Murano glass are opposed to any such ban.
The most radical proposal I've heard is a restriction on the size of the cruise ships that can pass in the center of Venice. That was not recent. If anyone can point me to a first-hand source, preferably Italian, for this article, I'll be grateful to know about it.
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There are a few articles, like this one:
https://www.veneziatoday.it/attualit...toninelli.html
But it sounds as if the alternative ports or docks are not seen as valid alternatives by all parties involved.
I assume that you need to have some transport options available if you want a cruise ship to dock at a RoRo Terminal. Which is build to handle trucks, but not several thousand people.
https://www.veneziatoday.it/attualit...toninelli.html
But it sounds as if the alternative ports or docks are not seen as valid alternatives by all parties involved.
I assume that you need to have some transport options available if you want a cruise ship to dock at a RoRo Terminal. Which is build to handle trucks, but not several thousand people.
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There are a few articles, like this one:
https://www.veneziatoday.it/attualit...toninelli.html
But it sounds as if the alternative ports or docks are not seen as valid alternatives by all parties involved.
https://www.veneziatoday.it/attualit...toninelli.html
But it sounds as if the alternative ports or docks are not seen as valid alternatives by all parties involved.
The original article, from Australian ABC news, seems to have no foundation.
Here's another gem from that article (my translation): "The terminal Ro Ro at Fusina could be an alternative... even though the docks are still being constructed."
And another: "When the plans for the passage of the large ships are complete in all their elements, they can be brought up to public discussion."
Maybe our grandchildren will live to see it.
Last edited by bvlenci; Aug 10th, 2019 at 12:02 PM.
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I'm surprised and disappointed if the ABC have jumped the gun - they're usually pretty reliable but maybe there was some wishful thinking going on? bvlenci, I'll be keen to hear if you hear anything further in Italy.





