German rail 1st class vs 2nd class

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Oct 30th, 2008, 11:52 AM
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quokka -- thanks for setting the record straight. Guess I buzzed through the news stories too quickly to catch that detail!
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Oct 30th, 2008, 03:02 PM
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Hi J,

My rules are:

2 cl for under 4 hrs.

For longer trips, 2cl if you are under 35, 1 cl if you are over 55.


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Oct 30th, 2008, 11:01 PM
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My rule is: reserve a seat and you won't have to sit on your suitcase.
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Oct 31st, 2008, 07:43 AM
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If going 2nd class then yes reserve to be guaranteed a seat

but the value of a first class ticket or pass that can be used on any train is that IME of hundreds of trips i've always found empty seats in first class

and i say apply the same criteria to your train trips as to your hotel

An ETAP hotel is perfectly comfy but an IBIS next door is a lot more comfy

Folks here who spend $100s on a meal and it never ceases to amaze me that they chinz on going in 2nd class to save a few bucks. I really cannot understand that mentality - treat train travel IMO like any other aspect of your trip.

I suspect a lot of folks who say 2nd class is just as good as 1st class and a waste of money have never traveled in first class.
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Oct 31st, 2008, 08:57 AM
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First class wil have larger, more comfy seats ad be much less crowded. The latter is important is you have more than a small cary-on- which is all that will fit in the overhead rack. Ifyou have more luggage First Class gives youmore options for stowing it (often under or on empty seats).

If we have luggage we always do first class, use second only for day trips.

If it's worht it depends on your budget - and if it would change anything else on your trip.
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Oct 31st, 2008, 08:58 AM
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Well, PQ --

Your statement that, "... a lot of folks who say 2nd class is just as good as 1st class and a waste of money have never traveled in first class." I wonder.

It's nice to be super-comfortable when one travels, of course. And it's even nice to be treated as a Special Somebody from time to time. I've indulged in first-class travel several times over the years -- luxe hotels, business-class transatlantic flights, expensive dinners. Enjoyed them. But I don't particularly crave them, esp as the tradeoff seems to be that in so indulging, I've felt oddly distanced from what I crave to be the true goals of travel: feeling, even if temporarily, a 'part' of the culture I'm visiting.

First class hotels, to me, all look and feel the same, whether they're in America, Germany, Japan or Mexico. First class train coaches -- ditto. First class restaurants -- perhaps not quite so 'ditto', but close.

For me, the *real* travel experience is to be found in the restaurants where the neighborhood goes for dinner, in the train and bus coaches the local folks use to get between points A and B.

I can afford a luxe experience from time to time. I simply choose not to, as my priorities are elsewhere.
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Oct 31st, 2008, 10:15 AM
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I don't think many of the folks who spend 100s on a meal are the ones debating whether 1st class tickets are worth the money.

My husband and I certainly don't go high end on restaurants. Our daily food budget while on vacation is around 100E for the 2 of us.
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Nov 1st, 2008, 06:19 AM
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I was speaking of $100 or more p.p. as one above poster reported and advises to go 2nd class on trains.
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