Not everyone agrees with their leaders. Being an American I can attest that President Bush has some who beg to differ with his opinion. Just b/c your Country's leaders have an opinion, it may or may not be yours and hopefully the French feel the same

Beatle: [email protected]<BR><BR><BR>Lynlor: Trying to bring down capitalism?<BR>No, just this president who is trying to gut our system of government.

Check the Library of congress records<BR><BR>On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler’s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler<BR><BR><BR>check Texas records for Arbusto company investors for the bin laden connection.<BR><BR>it is all a matter of public record.

Avalon...did you know that Joseph Kennedy led the anti-war movement in the late 30's and early 40's? Just to let you know you don't always have the &quot;inside goods&quot; on doing what is right!!!

Hello, Beatle,<BR><BR>Do you want GWB to have a bad day? Does that give you joy? He is our President. Wish him well. Don't trash him. I don't have the answers and neither do you. I do support our President and his efforts to protect our freedom and our free enterprise system. I wish you would support him too.

lynlor: I don't dislike GWB, just his policies.(Now Rumsfeld, that's another matter!) You're right, we don't have the answers. Gotta go.

<BR>If anyone with the access to information we have really believes SH has not devoted considerable effort into developing WMD -- and continues to do so -- you're completely out to lunch. I forget which politician said it, but he challenged a host of nations to ask their intelligence chiefs if they thought SH has WMD and if any single one thought Iraq doesn't. No reply. <BR><BR>As for avalon, I don't know what point is being made. Many unsavory things happened not so long ago, such as the Europeans' near-exterimination of the Jews. But this debate is about the present, and who stands for removing SH and who doesn't. <BR><BR>As for Blair and polls, Blair should be commended for sticking with his beliefs. Things are better on this side -- the lead story in today's NY Times is that support for President Bush and his handling of Iraq is rising. More and more Americans are impatient with European bluster and BS and are increasingly in favor of taking care of this problem regardless of what the UN votes. That's the good news.

Why is it that whenever a decent discussion of the issues gets started the usual cast of charcters show up with their name calling, insults and irrelvancies. Gee, why don't we talk about how Britain and France once divided up the middle east after a war, as if that has anything to do with what is currently going on in Iraq. Somebody else said it above. Once you strip most of these anti-war folks of their slogans and tired political rhetoric, they really don't have much worth listening to about how the world should deal with Saddam and Iraq.

Avalon,<BR><BR>Be more Specific. What page? What volumn? What chapter? What author? What date? etc, You can say anything you wish. <BR><BR>So, you are calling Prescott Bush a nazi.....hmmm.....reminds me of a guy named mcCarthy calling someone a communist.

Lynlor...I did my research now you do yours!It is very easy to find if you just look!

Operaman:<BR><BR>Our system of government, starting with the founding fathers was free enterprise and freedom. The left is trying to replace it with socialism. GWB is trying to restore it and protect our system of government.

avalon.<BR><BR>You tell us where you got your info. I am not making the claims and statements. You are. You back up your statements. That is not my job. If I claim to be quoting something, I will tell you exactly where it came from....chapter and verse.

wren...the Kennedy's are a whole other issue.And I would most likely agree with you on them.<BR><BR>lynlor! These are recorded facts in government records. Do you think I am sitting here making them up? Yes I guess you do. You do the work, I have already done it and learned lots of other things in the process. If I quote your page and verse you will just come back with another issue. So do it yourself and you will find out the truth.

We just came back from Paris on 2/11/03. Everyone we encountered had been nothing short of pleasant and helpful. We were concerned a bit as well being from the USA. But our concerns were not well founded. I agree that you have to give people all over credit that they can seperate you from George W.<BR>

well, Lynlor...I'll give you a hint!<BR><BR>1. Office of Alien Property Custodian, Vesting Order No. 248. The <BR>order was signed by Leo T. Crowley, Alien Property Custodian, <BR>executed October 20, 1942; F.R. Doc. 42-11568; Filed, November 6, <BR>1942, 11:31 A.M.; 7 Fed. Reg. 9097 (Nov. 7, 1942). See also the New <BR>York City Directory of Directors (available at the Library of <BR>Congress). The volumes for the 1930s and 1940s list Prescott Bush as <BR>a director of Union Banking Corporation for the years 1934 through <BR>1943.<BR><BR>2. Alien Property Custodian Vesting Order No. 259: Seamless Steel <BR>Equipment Corporation; Vesting Order No. 261: Holland-American <BR>Trading Corp.<BR>

Avalon, <BR><BR>You still don't get it. It is not my job to prove the point that you are trying to make.<BR><BR>You are trying to make a point here to me and the others.. This is a public forum. It is not my job to prove or disprove your comments. If you have the answers to the Specifics...state them here.<BR><BR>If I attempt to quote something here, I will tell you and the others exactly where if came from.....chapter and verse.. not just &quot;you go look it up&quot;.

I forgot to add that this is getting repetitive and boring and I am signing off. <BR><BR>You can address you comments to someone else. It is time for me to fix dinner for my family.

AND excuse me. I have just quoted you exact sources!

Here is something to consider:<BR><BR><BR>SEVERE EARTHQUAKE IN FRANCE <BR><BR>March 11, 2003.&nbsp; Today it was reported that a severe earthquakes have occurred in 10 different locations in France. The severity was measured in excess of 10 on the Richter Scale. The cause was the 56,681 dead American soldiers buried in French soil rolling over in their graves. <BR><BR>According to the American Battle Monuments Commission there are 26,255 Yankee dead from World War I <BR>buried in 4 cemeteries in France. There are 30,426 American dead from World War II buried in 6 cemeteries in France. These 56,681 brave American heroes died in their youth to liberate a country which is guilty of shameful <BR>unspeakable behavior in the 21st century. May the United States of America never forget their sacrifice as we find ways to forcefully deal with the Godforsaken unappreciative, forgetful country of France!<BR><BR>US

History refutes you, Sam.<BR>ever notice how US and lynlor post one right after the other?