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Old Feb 20th, 2004, 02:49 PM
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When I worked in Cosmetics at several high end department stores, people often asked me how they could get skin like mine.

Yes, yes, by all means use ____, the product I was selling, but really:
1) Drink tons of water;
2) stay out of the sun;
3) have my parents.

It is mostly heredity, but you can make things much worse through lifestyle choices.

Creams won't make things appreciably better, tho. However, they do feel divinely decadent.
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Old Feb 20th, 2004, 07:21 PM
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I used to work in the costmetic business, also, I was a packaging manager and worked for a major firm (one named above) and dealt with the lab -- the main difference in price is the package, not the chemicals, between cheap and expensive products. I don't personally think drinking water affects your skin quality, but we all have our own ideas. I'm in the camp that it's mainly genes and sun. I am lucky in that I have very fair skin and don't like laying around in the sun so never have and my skin looks about 15-20 years younger than avg. for my age (according to my dermatologist). I don't use expensive products. It is easy to get a prescription to RetinA if you want one -- a dermatologist will give you one if you want it for the wrinkles etc thing. Mine said I could use it to prevent my skin from aging (supposedly, this was in LA where I worked in the costmetic business so dermatologists offer everyone RetinA) but I never did because it has negative side effects. It can irritate the skin and make it very thin and overly sensitive.

Anyway, one of my favorite cheap European brands is just Nivea (which is German). I like their creamy soap and while you can buy some Nivea creams in the US, I haven't been able to find that. I take some of that home from France.

As for the cheap versions of the anti-aging stuff, I've read various articles on the subject, and I think the two drugstore brands considered the best are ROC and Neutrogena.
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Old Feb 21st, 2004, 03:21 AM
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Since Christina mentioned Nivea...

I participated in a photo shoot in Venice where the photographer shot a nude portrait of a young jewelry designer in an elaborate necklace she had made. The photographer wanted sumptuous looking moist skin and the make-up artist from Milan used a Nivea product called, Fluida Nutriente. Many of us were shocked by the glamourous results.

I never liked Nivea products in America because I couldn't get beyond its scent. And, I have since discovered the formula and the scent for the European market is completely different. We all ran to the local store and brought home a bottle of Fluida Nutriente. It's a loose, white cream that seems to have some oil in it and, ten minutes after the application, your skin glows and it lasts for hours and hours. Best of all, the scent is divine and reminds me of Paris glamour. If you've got dry skin anywhere on your body, pick up a bottle of this when in Europe. You won't regret it.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 04:02 AM
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Funny, I saw Nivea products all over Paris for great prices, but because of the scent, I stayed away and got some L'Oreal instead. Next time, I'll try Nivea! Thanks, NYCFS!
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Many thanks, NYCFS! I, too, was put off by the US version of Nivea cream. Whodathunk it would be so different in Europe?

I have very fair, sensitive & thin skin. I use Kiehl's Creme de Corps body mosturizer in winter where so much dry heat is encountered everywhere, and when flying. And, As for Lush, I love the rose petal Tisty Tosty bath bomb, but have not cared much for the other products I tried (admittedly, not many). I have never found any product for the feet better than Santa Maria Novella's Crema Pedestre.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 05:35 AM
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Kiehl's Creme de Corps is a great cream for dry skin. Many superstar make-up artists use this. I just can't stand the chemical "unscented" scent of Kiehl's. For me, there's nothing sexy about using this product. Even though I'm very particular when it comes to scent, I need to smell something lovely to help transcend the rub-down moment.

Even though she hasn't found God, ThinGorjus found Officina Profumo-Farmaceutica di Santa Maria Novella and, I have to agree, a stop in Firenze without a stop here is no visit at all. But, then again, I feel the same about the Duomo.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 06:13 AM
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Once upon a time, one of the Princesses Borghese wrote a beauty book.
If I'm not mistaken, one of her recommendations for luminous skin was a scrub of a paste of olive oil and sugar.
If I haven't lost my memory, she said Sophia Loren also used this.
A lot of men I know think that Sophia Loren, from her youngest until now is one of the world's most beautiful women.
So? Sometimes I smell like a sweet salad. And, I've got VERY good skin for being in my 50's...
That said, I'm also going to stock up on european Nivea. I like the product sold here but if it smells better...wahoo
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 07:58 AM
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I'm still fairly young I guess (30's) but once I stopped baking in the sun, (never smoked) started religiously wearing sunscreen, wearing little makeup, wearing a moisturizer with sunscreen, and always washing my face before going to bed....my skin has looked the same for the last 7-8 years, not one wrinkle and rarely a blemish...all products have been Nuetrogena, it works the best for me.
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It's strange, but for years LUSH has been exclaimed repeatedly at the be all and end all, especially by a poster, but now nobody seems to have a good word to say. It's said to be fruity and unsophisticated. Why this sudden swing in opinion, and even more to the point, where's the travel angle? Fodors needs some guidelines.
 
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Since when is shopping abroad NOT a travel angle???

Practically every guide book I own offers a "Shopping" section. So, TravelReporter, either you're a cheap, tasteless male or a banal lesbian. You're free to be both just don't expect a date with me.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 09:24 AM
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Date? So sad, and truly I do adore senior citizens. I'll just have to throw a frizzy LUSH ball into my bath wahter and soak away my cares. Sigh!
 
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European facial products are no better (or worse) than what you find in the states. It's just fun to try something different. Boots is one of my first stops when visiting England.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 02:07 PM
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here's no swing. Lush has been here in Boston only a month and less in other states, so maybe it's the first time for some to try the products. It seems to be mostly teens and early 20's.
Now there's a Longchamps shop and the bags have been selling briskly.
One should wear what one wants and that goes for scents too. On forums we share and are allowed to disagree or agree.
robbie, I recently sampled a line from Sicily that was wonderful but didn't remember the name
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On the "Lush" thread, StCirq mentioned that she uses a French cream (I presume StCirq would never use anything but FRENCH cream) that makes her look 10 years younger. She has been harassed on that thread to provide all the board peasants her little secret. If she has not seen the request for her beauty secret on that thread, perhaps she will see it here.

Have I made any spelling or grammatical errors?

As I said on the Lush thread, I have enough soap, shampoo, conditioner and lotion samples from hotels to last a long time. One shampoo/soap is like another. They all clean.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 03:11 PM
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I really dislike when anyone bashes anyone about something someone says. We ask, answer and not everyone has to agree.

I do want to try that Farmacia in Firenze when i am there. I want all the recommendations and then I can be the judge of what is best for me.

Again i thank you.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 04:34 PM
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Hello Cigalechanta, could that product from Sicily be Cali? I tried the body moisturizer - it was wonderful and had a lovely fragrance.

If StCirq won't share her beauty secrets, then maybe we can get Mimi to tell us her secret for amazingly beautiful skin. Please?
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 05:29 PM
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I know this is off the subject, but someone was talking about spelling above. I've been thinking about sharing this with you guys, but wasn't sure you'd understand that misspelling doesn't bother me. I just hate to see people put down because of it. Here is a link for a free spell checker which goes on your Internet Explorer tool-bar. It works great and it's free. http://www.iespell.com/
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 06:15 PM
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I have meny mispelings and I hope peeple dont mind. I was joking about mispeling above because I was saying someone might be drinking some fancy whine. Eye am glad u dont mind missspeling.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2004, 06:27 PM
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Marianna? whom I met at a fodors GTG?
Well you know my age so it's heredity and lots of good wine(red)
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Hi Marianna
I loved the Cali body lotion and bath gel; I bought some here in the US at Sephora, but can't find it there now. I'm not sure what country you are in, but if you're in the US, where do you find it?
Thanks!
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