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jahoulih Feb 11th, 2005 02:30 PM

The language was ... Gothic. Here's a website with the full text and lots of information:

http://www.wulfila.be/gothic/gotica/

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 03:15 PM

I didn't realize that was the name of a language.

Here's one I don't think we've done yet:

Tge è in’elecziun da maiorz? Tge vul dir cumular? Pudain nus votar electronicamain? Durant in onn d’elecziuns èn talas dumondas zunt actualas. Respostas sisur chattais Vus en questa broschura. Ella dilucidescha curt e bain ils dretgs politics dalas burgaisas e dals burgais....

cigalechanta Feb 11th, 2005 03:24 PM

swiss Italian?

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 03:28 PM

No, the Italian in Switzerland is just normal Italian.

cigalechanta Feb 11th, 2005 04:15 PM

so, what's the answer?

jahoulih Feb 11th, 2005 04:17 PM

I think Mimi is in the right country, though - Romansch?

StCirq Feb 11th, 2005 04:19 PM

There's no such language as Swiss Italian, but that's definitely italianate.

I think it's Romansch

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:22 PM

You are both correct that it's Romansch.

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:24 PM

And what about:

Tres manifestaziuns culturales de vigni sort se deura l'Istitut a n publich plü ampl y ti pîta deplü sorvisc. Cursc de lingaz, presentaziuns de libri nüs, mostres, conzerc y teatri é danter les manifestaziuns plü frecuëntes.


StCirq Feb 11th, 2005 04:27 PM

I'm pretty sire it's Ladin (we had to do some Ladin translations for a client last year)

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:28 PM

Yes, it's Ladin. (Not to be confused with Ladino.)

StCirq Feb 11th, 2005 04:35 PM

Exactly - we must be very pedantic with this thread:)

jahoulih Feb 11th, 2005 04:38 PM

How about a little poetry?

Déus, ab vostra vertut començ est desconhort,
lo qual faç en xantant, per ço que me’n conhort,
e que ab ell reconte lo falliment e el tort
que hom fa envers vós qui ens jutjats en a mort.
E on mais mi conhort, e menys hai lo cors fort,
car d'ira e dolor fa mon coratge port,
per què el conhort retorna en molt greu desconhort
e per aiçò estaig en treball e en deport,
e no hai null amic qui negú gauig m'aport,
mas tan solament vós, per què eu lo faix en port
en caent e en llevant e són çai en tal sort
que res no veig ni auig d’on me venga confort.

StCirq Feb 11th, 2005 04:41 PM

Could it be Mallorcan?

IS there such a language? It's got a lot of similarities to provencál and occitan, but it's neither of those, I don't think.

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:42 PM

Either Occitan or Catalan?

jahoulih Feb 11th, 2005 04:45 PM

Catalan is correct. Rather old Catalan - Ramon Llull, from the 13th century. I think Mallorcan is pretty much Catalan, so St. Cirq gets points too.

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:48 PM

We're doing "points"? Can I get flyer miles, or something?

cmt Feb 11th, 2005 04:51 PM

Some linguists categorize this as a "language":

E mme só' ricurdato na fenesta...
Maria 'mmiez'ê glicínie rampicante...
doje fronne 'aruta 'mpietto, 'o juorno 'e festa,
e na vesta cu 'e mmane soje cusute,
duje curallucce â recchia pe' brillante...
nu poco 'e cipria 'nfaccia...e niente cchiù!


StCirq Feb 11th, 2005 04:56 PM

Well, I'm again not sure if this is a language or a dialect or what, I'm going to guess it neapolitan Italiana, or Neapolitano ir there is such a word. If not, some other very specific regional Italian language/dialiect. I'm pretty sure it's southern italian, though. I suppose with cmt's predilections it could be Calabrian. But'Neapolitan is my final answer - for now.

jahoulih Feb 11th, 2005 04:56 PM

Maybe enough miles for a flight from Barcelona to Majorca. But St Cirq gets some miles too, because Llull was actually born on Majorca, a fact I didn't know until two minutes ago. (Still, I think I would agree with your answer, since most Catalonians would tell you that the language Llull wrote in is Catalan, and Mallorcan is not a separate language.)


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