Einfach-Raus Ticket

Nov 25th, 2007, 04:25 PM
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Einfach-Raus Ticket

Does anyone know if you can use the Einfach-Raus Ticket from Salzburg-Innsbruck... traveling through a part of Germany, but on an OeBB regional train? I checked it out on OeBB's "Personal Timetable" and it seems as though this is the case. I guess as long as you are on an OeBB regional train, it's ok. Anyone know for sure? Thanks everyone!
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Nov 25th, 2007, 07:05 PM
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I looked at the OeBB site, and could not find any Regional trains (corridor trains) through Germany. Trains requiring a change of train in Germany (e.g. Rosenheim) are Deutsche Bahn trains and not OeBB.

You might have to go the long way through Zell am See to get there on OeBB regional trains only.
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Nov 25th, 2007, 11:02 PM
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>I guess as long as you are on an OeBB regional train

No, it is OK as long as you are in a regional train on the OeBB network. It does not matter in which colours the carriages are painted (OeBB or DB comours) - if a train belonging to the OeBB uses the netowrk of the DB it is subject to DBīs ticketing rules, not the ones of OeBB, and vice versa.

Any other ruling would generate chaos.
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Nov 26th, 2007, 05:26 AM
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Thank you both for your responses. I checked the numbers of the regional trains from Salzburg-Innsbruck (via Rosenheim). The Salzburg-Rosenheim segment is RE 30018. The Rosenheim-Innsbruck segment is RB 5113. Question...how can I tell which train belongs to either OeBB or DB? I really don't mind traveling via Zell am See, but it adds a great deal of time and distance to the journey (great scenery, though).
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Nov 26th, 2007, 03:49 PM
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Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that trains operated by the OeBB between Salzburg and Innsbruck across Germany go non-stop between Salzburg and Kufstein.

If a train out of Salzburg stops at any German location (Freilassing, Rosenheim, etc.) then it is a DB train.
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Nov 27th, 2007, 01:15 PM
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>The Salzburg-Rosenheim segment is RE 30018. The Rosenheim-Innsbruck segment is RB 5113. Question...how can I tell which train belongs to either OeBB or DB?

Again: it's the territory the train travels through, not the coours the carriages are painted in (this is the only difference between the OeBB and DB trains on a given route). If it is in Germany, German (DB) ticketing rules apply. If in Austria, Austrian ticket rules apply.
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Nov 27th, 2007, 04:02 PM
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Altamiro,

Salzburg to Innsbruck is an exception to the normal rule because OeBB trains on this route are considered "corridor trains."

The official OeBB tariff, a PDF file on their web site, defines corridor trains as: "trains that travel over routes of foreign railroads and which can be used with domestic tickets; boarding or leaving the train or interrupting the journey on foreign territory is not permitted." (my translation)

In another place this tariff states that corridor trains travel:
"across German territory over the route from the national border near Salzburg to the national border near Kufstein by way of Rosenheim."

By rail, the shortest and quickest route from Salzburg to Innsbruck is through Germany. In the days before open borders, Austria made an arrangement with Germany to run trains non-stop from Salzburg to Kufstein without the necessity of German customs and immigration leaving Salzburg and then Austrian customs and immigration entering Kufstein. There are no longer customs and immigration formalities between Austria and Germany, but the allowing of Austrian domestic tickets on this route continues.
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Nov 27th, 2007, 05:43 PM
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But none of the existing corridor trains is a local train, on which the Einfach-Raus ticket would be valid, isnīt it. So this would make the above considerations void. No, you canīt use this ticket on that route.
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Nov 27th, 2007, 05:54 PM
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That's right. All the corridor trains are IC and don't qualify for the Einfach-Raus fare. As I said in an earlier post, the OP will have to go via Zell am See in order to use this ticket.

However, someone with an Austrian Single-Country Pass could use it on the corridor trains.
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Nov 28th, 2007, 01:39 PM
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Thanks to all for your help! You have given me a great deal of useful information.
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