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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Dress code...jet set casual ?

I have never worried about dress codes and, actually, never seen one on a website. Perhaps, I just don’t normally dine at such places. I will be taking my son, daughter-in-law and 13 year old granddaughter to Dubrovnik for 4 days after 3 weeks on Greek island. They are very casual dressers. Will be staying at the Hotel Bellevue. I stayed there with Mr. History 8 years ago before embarking on a National Geographic tour and loved the hotel and decided I would love to bring family here. One of the highlights of our stay was dining at their Vapor restaurant. Fabulous views. Now it seems they have added other restaurants and online have a suggested dress code for each. For the Vapor, they suggest jet set casual. It sounds terribly pretentious to me but have absolutely no idea as to what jet set casual means. I’m usually fine at almost any place with nice black slacks, white shirt/blouse etc. My son is particularly casual. Doubt if he’ll have any proper shoes although a decent shirt, maybe pants or shorts. We will have been rock climbing for the 3 weeks prior to Dubrovnik so nice clothes are not on our packing list. Suggestions or ideas as to what the hell they mean?
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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 08:58 PM
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I'm certainly not positive, but I would think what you describe for yourself would work. I would think that proper shoes and pants (not shorts) expected for a man.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 09:03 PM
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I have no idea what 'jet set casual' means - good luck with that.

But the reviews on TA (overwhelmingly 5 star) make it sound quite upscale - words like elegant and exquisite keep cropping up. There is outside seating so that might be a little more casual.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 09:26 PM
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Yes, when we were there 8 years ago, we ate outside on a terrace overlooking the bay. The setting was the main reason for deciding to dine there at least one night. We will be there 4 nights. It is a definitely 5* very expensive etc. but it won’t be the first time I’ve stayed at such a place. Ten or twenty years ago I would’ve dressed up a bit more but in all my recent travels, I’ve found very few tourists do. I am often better dressed than most even at the Balmoral Brasserie where I frequently dine when in Edinburgh. Tourists seem to have gotten very casual regarding any dress code, but this place may be the exception. Guess we’ll do our best and if they refuse to serve us, head into Dubrovnik, have a drink and a laugh.

Thanks for for your thoughts.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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As a lark I google 'jet set casual' images and this is what appeared . . . mostly Michale Kors handbags

https://www.google.com/search?channe...w=1336&bih=664
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Old Mar 2nd, 2019 | 11:13 PM
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Janisj, well that was interesting. Not sure about the camouflage pants and I’ll definitely rule out rhe short shorts but liked rhe polka dot skirt. That was a hoot. Thanks. I think we’ll be fine after all I’ve booked two rooms for four nights so it’s not as if we will have drifted in from the local bar and plan to do a dine and dash.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 01:37 AM
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Drop the hotel a note and explain how you are travelling, they will let you know.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 01:51 AM
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I suspect there is a reason the hotel has used the term "jet set casual" rather than other more commonly-used terms such as "country club casual." I love the term "proper" and wish someone would define that one.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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If these pass muster as jet set casual. then anything goes.



They just use the words "jet set" to show off.

When we went on our first and last cruise, there was some sort of dress code for the captain's dinner. I suggested to my husband that we bring along a jacket and a tie. He said, translating loosely from the Italian, "No two-bit cruise director is going to tell me what to wear." I at least got him to put on a clean sweater.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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I would say a shirt with collar or poloshirt for men/boys, long trousers for men (shorts fine for children), and for women anything that's not gym/beach wear, ripped jeans, that sort of thing. And any footwear except for flipflops.

Sometimes these rules are there to enable them to refuse people. I know a restaurant in London that has a 'no trainers' rule, which is rather silly these days. But if you book a table they will let you in whatever you're wearing. If the bar is busy and you want to come in for a drink they'll use the 'no trainers' rule to refuse people.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dukey1
I suspect there is a reason the hotel has used the term "jet set casual" rather than other more commonly-used terms such as "country club casual." I love the term "proper" and wish someone would define that one.
Wouldn't the country club be dressier than "jet set"? Normally you don't wear denim to the country club, I'm thinking, but with jet set, maybe those contrived/fake-ripped skinny jeans would be fine.

I love that word "proper" as it can mean whatever you want it to mean.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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I came across a case of "jet set casual" in Venice last month, though perhaps not in the quite the way you mean - while we were sitting in the sun having our drinks in Quadris [a special treat for me from my very lovely travelling companion] we noticed a very stylish young woman at the next table who was definitely dressed in "jet set style" complete with large designer sunglasses, stilettos, the works. What put her in the "jet set casual" class was that at one point she simply stood up and left her table, abandoning not only her drink but her gloves and her Chanel bag on the table! The becaped waiters just looked at each other and rolled their eyes, stationing one of them by the table until she returned. I hope they got a decent tip!

[sorry to digress!]
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by annhig
I came across a case of "jet set casual" in Venice last month, though perhaps not in the quite the way you mean - while we were sitting in the sun having our drinks in Quadris [a special treat for me from my very lovely travelling companion] we noticed a very stylish young woman at the next table who was definitely dressed in "jet set style" complete with large designer sunglasses, stilettos, the works. What put her in the "jet set casual" class was that at one point she simply stood up and left her table, abandoning not only her drink but her gloves and her Chanel bag on the table! The becaped waiters just looked at each other and rolled their eyes, stationing one of them by the table until she returned. I hope they got a decent tip!

[sorry to digress!]
That story describes my mental picture of jet set casual perfectly! Re. the tip: I hear that Europeans don't. They are afraid the nasty American tipping culture will spread.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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For men.. I think a pair of linen slacks would be " jet set casual " .. shorts should never be worn to dinner except in the most casual of beach front cafes I think.

Your outfit sounds fine.. I am not good with heat so I tend to wear mostly sundresses , I find them cooler than shorts or pants..
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Old Mar 3rd, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Thanks everyone for the comments. I think displaying such a dress code is really a means of refusing people or hoping that no one with a reservation shows up in swim wear or cut-off denims and Led Zeppelin T-shirt although my granddaughter is the one most likely to do that. I may have to pack something for my son but daughter-in-law often travels with a dress and will be fine and I'll try to persuade my somewhat Bohemian ( in clothes category ) granddaughter that she should opt for a sundress.

Comment by bienvci reminds me that we took the Queen Mary from Southampton to New York several years ago and I took their dress code seriously. I went out and bought several cocktail dress at some expense but on board I found things much more casual. I could have easily gotten by without purchasing a thing. I imagine the same holds true for the Vapor restaurant.
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Old Mar 4th, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Comment by bienvci reminds me that we took the Queen Mary from Southampton to New York several years ago and I took their dress code seriously. I went out and bought several cocktail dress at some expense but on board I found things much more casual. I could have easily gotten by without purchasing a thing. I imagine the same holds true for the Vapor restaurant.
My sister took the Queen Mary round trip from New York to Southampton, as her husband won't fly. She came to visit me in Italy (by train) later.) On the way out, there was a group of Old Order Amish travelers on their way to discover their roots in Europe. Guess what they wore to the captain's dinner?

When she got to my house, she abandoned almost half her luggage for the return trip, having seen that no one insisted on the formal dress. She left me a backpack, a large purse, and a garment bag, as well as a good deal of the contents. I used what I could and donated the rest to the Caritas.

Note to history traveler: I don't think you need to bring something for your son, and maybe he'd refuse to wear it. It sounds to me as though he'll be fine with what he usually wears.
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Old Mar 4th, 2019 | 01:28 PM
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bvienci, interesting comment about your sister's experience. We had luggage shipped to the Queen Mary in Southampton. It was in our room when we boarded. Again another expense but I didn't want to carry around all that luggage on our trip through U.K. My husband won't fly either and we thought this might be an alternative. We were bored after the first 48 hours. It was not for us. Now husband stays home and is happy with me continuing to travel although at this point he isn't able to travel much anyway.

I think we'll be fine. It is a resort hotel and I've always found them a bit more casual. That along with the fact that tourists seem to dress much more casually than they did 15/20 years ago makes me think their dress code, like the one on the Queen Mary, doesn't need to be taken too seriously.
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Old Mar 5th, 2019 | 04:18 AM
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My sister enjoyed the trip. The second time, she took her her five grandchildren and four of their parents. It wouldn't be my cup of tea. I think that when I'm decrepit I might take another cruise, but not until then.
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Old Mar 5th, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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You're guests at the hotel. I would simply email them and ask for clarification. Say something along the lines of what you posted here.

We can all guess at what they might mean, but they can actually tell you ("no shorts" or "closed toe shoes" or whatever their guidelines include).
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Old Mar 5th, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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Yes to what suze says - say you are packing and want to be in order, etc. Casual to me means anything that is clean - jeans whatever - just not grungy.
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