Do I Tip the Maid & How Much, Paris 3* Hotel?
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Aug 18th, 2017, 10:04 AM
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Yesterday, the French news had a big report on Birkenstock, one of the last items of footwear still made in Europe and which has become fashionable again in spite of the high price. They did not mention whether the workers received tips for making them.
Aug 18th, 2017, 10:07 AM
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Whatgood-bye?
Their salary does not depend on the number of meals they serve or the manner in which they serve it>
Which sometimes results in surly or perfunctory service - fine with me - all this groveling for tips at times in American restaurants gets kind of grating - do your job as a professional whether you have a smile on or not who cares?
Their salary does not depend on the number of meals they serve or the manner in which they serve it>
Which sometimes results in surly or perfunctory service - fine with me - all this groveling for tips at times in American restaurants gets kind of grating - do your job as a professional whether you have a smile on or not who cares?
Aug 18th, 2017, 10:16 AM
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this Paris restaurant is going to encourage it by not informing its English-speaking customers of the French law regarding “Servis Compris.”>
May have missed it above but is it a law? Cannot a restaurant charge for service - like some in Venice charge for getting a table?
May have missed it above but is it a law? Cannot a restaurant charge for service - like some in Venice charge for getting a table?
Aug 18th, 2017, 10:19 AM
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<<If "you" means me, you seem to know and defend a few "regulars" on this board who enjoy being rude. Some self-growth books claim "you attract what you are.">>
I have zero truck with "self-growth books."I do my own self-growing.
And why would I not defend my enjoyment of knowing kerouac, fuzzbucket, whathello , and other Fodorites who live in France?
You should be so lucky. It's all part of "self-growing,"y'know. How are things going in the USA today?
And "service compris" is pretty much self-explanatory, but so is finding your way into a Paris métro station, so it just might be that YOU have the problem.
I have zero truck with "self-growth books."I do my own self-growing.
And why would I not defend my enjoyment of knowing kerouac, fuzzbucket, whathello , and other Fodorites who live in France?
You should be so lucky. It's all part of "self-growing,"y'know. How are things going in the USA today?
And "service compris" is pretty much self-explanatory, but so is finding your way into a Paris métro station, so it just might be that YOU have the problem.
Aug 18th, 2017, 10:46 AM
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Yes those that throw sticks should not complain when some are thrown back at them - same as with glasshouses.
Those four Fodorgarch mentioned in above post are some of the very best resources about France and Europe in general we have. I cherish their presence - and at times rude IMO (and me to them) but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater -rudeness is often provoked by rudeness - you seem not to be able to look yourself in the mirror when accusing others of things that could be said about you.
That said I welcome your contributions as well - from a naive American traveler standpoint and your foibles will help other novice naive perhaps Americans avoid the pitfalls you've encountered - perhaps enabling them to find their way also out of the abyss of the metro.
I think by law perhaps all restaurant receipts must have all charges on them - you should have seen the "Service 15%" or whatever on it.
Those four Fodorgarch mentioned in above post are some of the very best resources about France and Europe in general we have. I cherish their presence - and at times rude IMO (and me to them) but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater -rudeness is often provoked by rudeness - you seem not to be able to look yourself in the mirror when accusing others of things that could be said about you.
That said I welcome your contributions as well - from a naive American traveler standpoint and your foibles will help other novice naive perhaps Americans avoid the pitfalls you've encountered - perhaps enabling them to find their way also out of the abyss of the metro.
I think by law perhaps all restaurant receipts must have all charges on them - you should have seen the "Service 15%" or whatever on it.
Aug 18th, 2017, 10:51 AM
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I think by law perhaps all restaurant receipts must have all charges on them - you should have seen the "Service 15%" or whatever on it.>
Meant to delete that before posting as you explained that above.
Now do we have to tip the Toilet women (or men) attendants at public toilets -they always have a tip box out - talking about free ones not ones that list charges?
Meant to delete that before posting as you explained that above.
Now do we have to tip the Toilet women (or men) attendants at public toilets -they always have a tip box out - talking about free ones not ones that list charges?
Aug 18th, 2017, 11:15 AM
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StCirq, your treatment of me on this thread is very disappointing. I once thanked you with sincerity for your help on the Dordogne, but recently, your blunt rudeness and insensitivity confounds me. You are clearly not the person I once thought you were.
I think I read you were happy with your move back to France. You don't sound happy on this board. In fact, you sound as miserable ever, with lots of digs and insults to strangers, just like your troll friends. That doesn't sound like happiness to me. People who are happy don't play the troll game. They don't thrive on being rude to others. I'm no longer buying your fake facade.
For what your off-topic comments are worth, I didn't vote for Trump. But I see you enjoy a good cheap shot when you can get one in. I'm sure you're very proud of yourself. I'm sure it makes you feel more superior than you already feel.
>>Those four Fodorgarch mentioned in above post are some of the very best resources about France and Europe in general we have.<<
That is what I call a very sad reality. If Internet Brands isn't careful, this board might follow in the footsteps of SlowTrav.
I think I read you were happy with your move back to France. You don't sound happy on this board. In fact, you sound as miserable ever, with lots of digs and insults to strangers, just like your troll friends. That doesn't sound like happiness to me. People who are happy don't play the troll game. They don't thrive on being rude to others. I'm no longer buying your fake facade.
For what your off-topic comments are worth, I didn't vote for Trump. But I see you enjoy a good cheap shot when you can get one in. I'm sure you're very proud of yourself. I'm sure it makes you feel more superior than you already feel.
>>Those four Fodorgarch mentioned in above post are some of the very best resources about France and Europe in general we have.<<
That is what I call a very sad reality. If Internet Brands isn't careful, this board might follow in the footsteps of SlowTrav.
Aug 18th, 2017, 11:40 AM
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troll - love that word - used by trolls usually - but the definition seems to fit you:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
Not sure who threw the first stones here but who will be the adult who stops throwing? You?
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
Not sure who threw the first stones here but who will be the adult who stops throwing? You?
Aug 18th, 2017, 12:11 PM
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>>a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels<<
I don't start quarrels. But I'll be damned if I'm going to play fool for an ass. All you have to do here is make an honest post and then watch who calls you an idiot, a liar, stupid, and a moron. It's always the same people. The "regulars."
>>who will be the adult who stops throwing?<<
I am an adult, a seriously aging one. The board "regulars" can have their board. I visited 5 famous boutique hotels in Paris and stayed at 3. I was going to write a trip report on the hotels, but that idea is flushed. The trolls win this time. I'm moving on.
I don't start quarrels. But I'll be damned if I'm going to play fool for an ass. All you have to do here is make an honest post and then watch who calls you an idiot, a liar, stupid, and a moron. It's always the same people. The "regulars."
>>who will be the adult who stops throwing?<<
I am an adult, a seriously aging one. The board "regulars" can have their board. I visited 5 famous boutique hotels in Paris and stayed at 3. I was going to write a trip report on the hotels, but that idea is flushed. The trolls win this time. I'm moving on.
Aug 18th, 2017, 12:36 PM
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NIce to meet you Belinda 
. I come here to read your advice re Paris. You know how to enjoy the city.
I do wonder why, if they're concerned about their brand, the owners don't open the Lounge and close Europe.
. I come here to read your advice re Paris. You know how to enjoy the city. I do wonder why, if they're concerned about their brand, the owners don't open the Lounge and close Europe.
Aug 18th, 2017, 01:57 PM
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It's a 3* (French official rating) hotel in the Latin Quarter, if that makes a difference. We'll be staying 10 nights, by the way, so that may affect the answers.>
Why would the rating of the hotel make a difference? Even one-star hotels change linen and those staffers I'd bet get even lower wages than at a ***-hotel -maybe you should thus give more to the lower rated the hotel staff? And to hotels not patronized by many Americans?
Why would the rating of the hotel make a difference? Even one-star hotels change linen and those staffers I'd bet get even lower wages than at a ***-hotel -maybe you should thus give more to the lower rated the hotel staff? And to hotels not patronized by many Americans?
Aug 19th, 2017, 02:09 AM
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<<<vincenzo32951 on Aug 18, 17 at 3:23pm
Is this a bad time to mention that Europeans are infecting American culture by wearing sandals with socks when visiting the the US? Or man-pris?>>>
Gosh, Vincenzo, I have just returned from Cesly Krumlov which gets many visitors from Germany and Austria.
Czech people dress nicely in general, but I have to say that those Germans and Austrians are some of the most horribly dressed tourists I have ever seen.
Is this a bad time to mention that Europeans are infecting American culture by wearing sandals with socks when visiting the the US? Or man-pris?>>>
Gosh, Vincenzo, I have just returned from Cesly Krumlov which gets many visitors from Germany and Austria.
Czech people dress nicely in general, but I have to say that those Germans and Austrians are some of the most horribly dressed tourists I have ever seen.
