crime rate in Ireland
Sep 21st, 2007, 06:44 AM
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Hi Joan and Ned
Aye, Ned here in Dublin, the nice people say, Traveller for Gypsies,
but...... There are a whole host of other Dublin slang names for them too...but I'm not even going there, for fear some do-gooder may jump all over me!
When I was a child a traveller was a tourist.
Life has become so conflustering with all this political correctness, I wish the old days were back and we could just come out with it and be done ...Oh life was so simple then!
Sometimes I listen to my children and wonder were they whisked away and raised in the USA, because they speak like two American children, every sentence starts or ends with the word "like" and everything is "so" amazing....and when my son gets too much homework from school, it not too much homework, its " dumbass" homework!
When my Mum calls in to visit she gets great craic listening to them, its like a totally new language to her!
I'm soooo like behind with my housework today.......and my dumbass vacum cleaner isnt working!! doh!
Aye, Ned here in Dublin, the nice people say, Traveller for Gypsies,
but...... There are a whole host of other Dublin slang names for them too...but I'm not even going there, for fear some do-gooder may jump all over me!
When I was a child a traveller was a tourist.
Life has become so conflustering with all this political correctness, I wish the old days were back and we could just come out with it and be done ...Oh life was so simple then!
Sometimes I listen to my children and wonder were they whisked away and raised in the USA, because they speak like two American children, every sentence starts or ends with the word "like" and everything is "so" amazing....and when my son gets too much homework from school, it not too much homework, its " dumbass" homework!
When my Mum calls in to visit she gets great craic listening to them, its like a totally new language to her!
I'm soooo like behind with my housework today.......and my dumbass vacum cleaner isnt working!! doh!
Sep 21st, 2007, 09:49 AM
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The Irish people do not use the word "Traveller" for "Gypsy" (although they sometimes the use the word "Gypsy" for "Traveller"
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Travellers in Ireland are Irish people with a nomadic tradition, but with no connection to the Gypsy peoples that one finds elsewhere in Europe. While some of them are involved in crime, they do not have the reputation for pickpocketing and similar offences that the Gypsies have.
In recent years a number of Gypsy families have migrated to Ireland from eastern Europe. Because many do not have a right to stay long-term, it is difficult to get a count, because of the numbers that are here illegally: certainly many hundreds, possibly a few thousand. There are reports that some of them engage in street crime, most commonly that they distract people at ATMs and grab their money.
.Travellers in Ireland are Irish people with a nomadic tradition, but with no connection to the Gypsy peoples that one finds elsewhere in Europe. While some of them are involved in crime, they do not have the reputation for pickpocketing and similar offences that the Gypsies have.
In recent years a number of Gypsy families have migrated to Ireland from eastern Europe. Because many do not have a right to stay long-term, it is difficult to get a count, because of the numbers that are here illegally: certainly many hundreds, possibly a few thousand. There are reports that some of them engage in street crime, most commonly that they distract people at ATMs and grab their money.
Sep 21st, 2007, 10:22 AM
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Indeed, calling a Traveller a "gypsy" within in their range of hearing could result in a quite unfavorable exchange.
THough the travelers are a different sort, I have never felt unsafe in their presence. In fact it has been Travellers who were kind enough to help me find my way back to the right road during one of my "Faery-led" moments and another group of Travellers who gave me directions for one of my most favorite of ruins. A place I would not have found if not for their kindness. That is not to say that they cannot be quarrelsome and cagey. However every sector of the population has its good and its bad folk.
The Gypsies I have encountered did leave me ill at ease and put me very much on guard.
Slan Beo,
Bit
THough the travelers are a different sort, I have never felt unsafe in their presence. In fact it has been Travellers who were kind enough to help me find my way back to the right road during one of my "Faery-led" moments and another group of Travellers who gave me directions for one of my most favorite of ruins. A place I would not have found if not for their kindness. That is not to say that they cannot be quarrelsome and cagey. However every sector of the population has its good and its bad folk.
The Gypsies I have encountered did leave me ill at ease and put me very much on guard.
Slan Beo,
Bit
Oct 19th, 2007, 06:26 AM
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It's not crime-free. Just last week a Swiss girl on an English language program in Galway was raped and murdered two days after she arrived. The last her host family saw of her she said she was walking towards the pub for a drink.
Oct 19th, 2007, 09:28 AM
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Out of respect for her family, I think some clarification is appropriate. The media have been careful to avoid saying or implying that she was raped. I don't know if she said she was going for a drink: it is reported here in Ireland that she was going to meet her friends -- she was only 17, and under legal drinking age. The salient fact, though, is that she was murdered. It is horrible to contemplate.
Her burial took place today and a man was charged with her murder.
Her burial took place today and a man was charged with her murder.
Oct 22nd, 2007, 06:36 AM
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Padraig is right and nothing else has come out so we have to respect her family and probably as they are charging someone they cannot give too many details. People are sickened byt this and its not a bad area just normal suburb area which shocks people even more. I really feel for her family and the press unfortunately were at her Funeral in Switzerland. Very sad but it happends now in EVERY country.
