Coffee in Paris...I'm confused
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:02 PM
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mgmargate,
Agreed on the Lanceter. I just meant in terms of overall societal acceptance and encouragement, cycling is far superior in France. If you brave the highways of Wisconsin on a road bike, for example, you'll get sideswiped by a Leinenkugels-besotted, bratwurst-laden Cheesehead on a Harley. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Agreed on the Lanceter. I just meant in terms of overall societal acceptance and encouragement, cycling is far superior in France. If you brave the highways of Wisconsin on a road bike, for example, you'll get sideswiped by a Leinenkugels-besotted, bratwurst-laden Cheesehead on a Harley. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:06 PM
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The best thing about Dunkin' Donuts is the abbreviated gerund. Much more imaginative than the forced alliteration of Krispy Kreme. If marooned on a desert isle, though, give me the KK. You've got both major food groups represented, fat and sugar. Them's good eatin'!
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:21 PM
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You are correct, Mimi. Kona coffee is the best in the world. I have a relative send me the beans from Hawaii and I grind them myself.
I am surprised, Ira, that you don't know how to spell cappuccino. Please return your PhD immediately.
Dunkin' Donuts has the worst coffee. It satisfies people who like brown water, not coffee.
You are correct, Steve. Americans are as daft as sheep.
I am surprised, Ira, that you don't know how to spell cappuccino. Please return your PhD immediately.
Dunkin' Donuts has the worst coffee. It satisfies people who like brown water, not coffee.
You are correct, Steve. Americans are as daft as sheep.
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:32 PM
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I guess Europeans hate D.D just like they hate McD's etc.etc. anytime you go in one it's full of the locals.Go figure.I still say you won't find a decent cup of joe at any local establishment in Europe,it doesn't exist.
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:36 PM
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I too like Kona if not over-roasted in the American way! Blue Mountain however remains my favo(u)rite. US coffee culture reminds me of the behavour of the Morlocks in that great movie "The Time Machine".
Marilyn, I suggest you obtain a Giotto by ECM in Milano and a good grinder and not one of those horrible spinning blade types commonly used in USA. The Giotto is the smallest machine I know that makes better coffee than the commercial Bezzera espresso machine I also have in my office.
Marilyn, I suggest you obtain a Giotto by ECM in Milano and a good grinder and not one of those horrible spinning blade types commonly used in USA. The Giotto is the smallest machine I know that makes better coffee than the commercial Bezzera espresso machine I also have in my office.
Jun 7th, 2004, 09:11 PM
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If only we could all be as sophisticated and have the great taste buds of SydneySTeve and ThinGorjus, the world would be so much better.
By the way, ThinGorjus, do you own a Thesaurus? A truly educated person might actually know more than one word to insult people...
By the way, ThinGorjus, do you own a Thesaurus? A truly educated person might actually know more than one word to insult people...
Jun 7th, 2004, 11:44 PM
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For you Bay Area folks..our last trip to Paris we packed a pound of Peet's coffee. We were renting an apartment and felt we would be able to find good coffee once there for awhile. We laughed at ourselves before hand thinking it was rather like taking coals to Newcastle. We met up with a friend from SF who was living in Paris at the time. Among the three of us, that pound of Peet's became some exquisite ration. We never did find good coffee in Paris..not to buy and brew at least.
Jun 8th, 2004, 02:44 AM
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This thread is brilliant. Surely "good" coffee is purely subjective. The original question had some validity in terms of trying to understand the various coffee menus out there, and Ira managed the most verbose and complete answer. Everything subsequent to that has been a case of US coffee = good, Eurocoffee = bad (from the US writers) and the opposite from the rest of the world.
Is it a coincidence?
Personally, the 'European' coffee I purchase usually comes from Kenya, in bean form, I grind it and 'cafetiere' (plunger) it, and it tastes wonderful to me, and that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned.
Is it a coincidence?
Personally, the 'European' coffee I purchase usually comes from Kenya, in bean form, I grind it and 'cafetiere' (plunger) it, and it tastes wonderful to me, and that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned.
Jun 8th, 2004, 04:42 AM
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Sorry Steve - I must agree with Tom. You can't categorize Americans. I have a quality espresso machine, a French press, several other coffee makers and am always experimenting. "Creamer" does not live at my house, only milk, cream or half and half and I'll drink coffee black if I can't get the real thing. We poor Americans - such slanders we must endure. Still we do keep on.
Also MD - the fish thing. I was a Navy brat but hated fish. Lately I've decided when eating out and not particularly hungry, to order fish and give it a try - to my surprise I discovered good fish out there - sushi, mussels, scallops, grouper, dolphin - who knew?! The problem probably started those hideous Friday fish sticks in school. Experimentation is good so don't give up on fish.
Also MD - the fish thing. I was a Navy brat but hated fish. Lately I've decided when eating out and not particularly hungry, to order fish and give it a try - to my surprise I discovered good fish out there - sushi, mussels, scallops, grouper, dolphin - who knew?! The problem probably started those hideous Friday fish sticks in school. Experimentation is good so don't give up on fish.
