Best place in Europe to argue?

Old Jan 5th, 2018, 07:56 AM
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Best place in Europe to argue?

Aside from Speakers Corners is there someplace in Europe I can go to argue?
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:10 AM
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Room 12A. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxrbOVeRonQ
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:14 AM
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Fodor's Europe forum? Trip Advisor?
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:15 AM
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three mins apart !!!
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:19 AM
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The Britons do come to mind. But I have experience that they can start swinging.

Surely there must be places when democracy has flourished, or something like that, where public speaking/arguing is encouraged? Gdańsk? Athens?
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I've heard a lot of arguments in Venice. Usually about knowing where to go, being lost, or whether to take a gondola ride or not. Would that work for you? You have to bring your significant other to make this happen.
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:52 AM
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Come see me. I'll argue with you.
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"You don't want an argument!"
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It was trendy for a while in Paris to have "cafes philos" or a cafe philosophique (philosophy cafe). ONe was Les Phares at the Bastille place, where it started. Basically, there is a moderator who poses a philosophic question (or it may be chosen by group vote) and the group discusses it for and hour or two. So it's not a lecture but more a debate where everyone can express himself.

SO this was sort of a movement, there are some mostly in France but a few in other countries (one in London at the Institut Francais). I think there used to be one where I live (Washington DC) but not anymore. There are several in Paris, including still the Cafe des Phares. They have one in English in Paris at the Cafe de Flore on bd St Germain (you can find that on Meetup). The guy who ran the Phares website unfortunately died a few months ago so not sure what they are up to.

Nowadays I think Speakers Corner is on the internet, like Reddit.

IN fact, there is sort of a speakers corner in DC now, although not official. It's just north of the White House, Layfayette Square. But people are always standing out there with signs and pressing various causes, some are there every day.
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/pr...he-white-house

they have a Speakers Corner in Singapore, you can apply to speak
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/speakers-c...plication-form
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 08:57 AM
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Wherever you go, there you are.
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Try hiring a car in Sicily, the returns are always a forum.

Try raising the topic of the Icelandic no fish zone whilst drinking in a Reykjavik bar.

Malta, they are always argumentative with anyone but Brits.

Sit in a bar in Oslo and describe how you found Helsinki to be such a cultured and cosmopolitan city.

Not Belgium, they don't have the energy to argue.

Or rural Scotland, we have more guns per head than Baltimore, arguments can end painfully.

Actually, the best way to start an argument in most of Europe, is to drive like an Italian.
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 09:03 AM
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Wonderful ideas. I am tired of social media arguing where disagreeing is too easy.

And Fran Diavolo made me think of this when he told someone on the bull thread to read Hemingway. Imagine standing in front of the Acropolis and quoting Hemingway, who(m)ever he is? What a thrill.

"whether to take a gondola ride or not."

My wife fell in love with the gondolier - is that what they are called? The guy sang to her the entire time. She said she could switch just my ticket to an earlier flight home.

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IS this a real thing?
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You know I don't live in the 6eme. Hope a velo and head uphill!

See, we're already arguing!
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 10:42 AM
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Northern Italian - anywhere south of Milan they'll curse northern Italian drivers as "Tedeschi."

Tedeschi are Germans.
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 12:19 PM
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>>>And Fran Diavolo made me think of this when he told someone on the bull thread to read Hemingway. Imagine standing in front of the Acropolis and quoting Hemingway, who(m)ever he is? What a thrill.
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Old Jan 5th, 2018, 12:59 PM
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WTH

Ok then - on the steps of the Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya in Barcelona. Looking down at the fountain. Exchanging ideas with others on the great issues of the day, like um independence for all.

The point is to get away from all this social media crap and back to the grand days of public debate. Face to face. Ten steps and turn.
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>>>WTH
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I find that after an all night transatlantic flight in economy class almost everywhere is a good place to argue.
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