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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 01:25 PM
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My Grandfather, sargent George W. Barton Company C, 116th Infantry, 5th Ranger Battalion landed on Omaha beach to defend a way of life that we in this day and age will never understand. He is still there! My family never had a chance to meet him and I take offence when anyone has anything bad to say about the worth Americans. implied or in jest!
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 01:35 PM
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Oh please, lighten up! The one thing Brits really dislike is being told that we (Americans) won the war for them. They are likely to remind us that the war started in 1939, not 1942. And we hardly need reminding that the British have stood by us since then in the Middle East, while other countries have stayed away.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 01:44 PM
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First thing! I didn't say WE won the war! I said we stood shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight. I remind you of a thing called lend lease during 1940 to 1942. As a relative of a fighting soldier that gave his life for the freedom of the Europeans like the other 100's of 1000's of American families. I think we deserve a little respect to not be called hillbillies,Yanks,Geeks, Dorks, wankers,slappers etc ect. How soon people forget when they haven't lost anything or anybody.
 
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It was to the advantage of many Europeans that it was in America's interest to enter the war against the Third Reich and its allies. But it was the Russians who turned the war against Hitler, and the American participation does not give present-day Americans ownership of the English language. "Yank" is not a pejorative term although, like many words, it can sometimes be used with pejorative intent.

That said, Roger Lisa, I am sorry that you lost your father as you did.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:25 PM
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<i>&quot;Hitler was kind to animals - it doesn't make him a nice bloke.</i>

And if being &quot;nice&quot; were a requirement for UK citizenship, a few I can think of would lose theirs.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:25 PM
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It was my grandfather and thank you Padraig. I agree with you. but please don't discount the effort and the great lost America suffered. I think We deserve better then to be called YANKS! Why not call us what we are so proud of...AMERICANS!
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:30 PM
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Didn't this start as a complaint about a 40 pound lunch at Harrods?

Now , it is about WWII ?!
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:41 PM
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It has never occurred to me that Yank was a negative term but I would be careful who I was calling a Yankee at a bar outside Fenway Park. And my father, a veteran of the war, would only have taken offense at the term before the Dodgers moved out of Brooklyn, da bums.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:42 PM
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If you object to Yank, you should hear what the British (and the Irish) call each other.

Taffs, jocks, micks, sweaties, bogtrotters, sassenachs, sheepshaggers, paddies, b@stards (generally prefixed by English).

Sincerely Roger Lisa, it's not meant offensively, the &quot;official&quot; cockney slang term for American is actually quite offensive and I haven't seen it used here.

Sorry for your father...
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 02:54 PM
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If you're referring to &quot;Septics&quot;, I've seen it here. I think it's funny.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 03:18 PM
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It was my GRANDFATHER!! I was only talking about the way brits cast apersions! They have no right to call us anything except friend and partners! Anything less implys something negative!
I haven't read anything on this board by an American that calls Brits disrespectful names.
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 03:22 PM
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I think the point many are making here is that the brits are not casting aspersions when they use the word yank. Just as I am not casting aspersions when I use the word brit.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 03:27 PM
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Let's give it a rest, shall we? R_L, you're being hypersensitive in that most distasteful victimish way that has become way too normal in the USA these days.

I'm a Yankee, Yank, whatever you want to call it and proud of it, and never once in my life did I think anyone was casting aspersion on me or anyone else for using that term, any more than I thought I was being disrespectfulusing the term Brit. It just means I hail from New England, just as Brit means one who hails from England.

Enough said...this is a really stooopid argument.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:09 PM
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Whatever you think StCirq. You call it being hypersensitive I call it defending the honor of American citizens. It's just too bad that even Americans like you have lost the respect for America to defend her when she is talked about no matter how slight! I bet if someone said Paris is a dangerous place you would jump all over them! I'll leave it at that. You're right and I am wrong. Now let's talk about travel.
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:17 PM
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Just one quick note, my brother left Southern California were he grew up and moved to Australia were his nickname is Yank! He loves it and it is not meant to be disresptful by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:21 PM
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Roger_Lisa - you are being ridiculous. <u>Totally</u> ridiculous. My father was in France and the Battle of the Bulge. 3 purple hearts, Bronze star. He traveled to the UK many times for over 35 years - was called a Yank very affectionately by folks in village pubs and everywhere else.

<b>do not assume everyone else in the States or in the UK thinks Yank is a slur!!</b> If you take such offence to such a usually benign word, I can only imagine how you interact w/ others. Quit looking for trouble where there is NONE.

Sheessh -
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:36 PM
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Wow, when away the confused do play.
Roger, those who lived in the North were always considred Yanks but I did consider New Englanders Yanks but it's all the same, we are Northeners and we do not consider the word disrespectful.
In the words sung by James Cagney, &quot;I'm a yanke doodle dandy...&Iuml;'ll post the rest of the words.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:38 PM
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You're right and I am wrong janisj. I am being stupid and ridiculous! I think I will now refer to all of my post about the UK citizens as those dumb lymies.
 
Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:39 PM
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http://www.firstworldwar.com/audio/yankeedoodleboy.htm
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Old Aug 3rd, 2007, 04:41 PM
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Roger_Lisa wrote: &quot;Whatever you think StCirq. You call it being hypersensitive I call it defending the honor of American citizens.&quot;

First off, many people here, both Americans and non-Americans, have said that they do not consider &quot;Yank&quot; to be pejorative, and you consistently ignore or reject that view.

Second, respect is given to those who earn it rather than those who demand it.
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