We will be visiting Paris in May, 2008. Some of the sites said admission is free if you are 18 and under. One of my DD will be 19 in a few months after the May trip. Do they still count her as 18? Or do they count her as over 18?

Is this a trick question?

Europeans use the same ordinal number system as the rest of the world.

Since see will meet the criteria 18 and under, she should get in free.

She is 18 until her birthday and then she will be 19, which, if I remember first year math correctly, will then be over 18. She gets in free as she will not yet be 19 when you are there.

Huh?

If she's 18, they count her as 18. If she's 19, they count her as 19.

What's confusing about this?

She might have to show proof of her age (passport). Some European museums offer free entry to EUROPEANS 18 and under so check the fine print if necessary!

well, of course, with the time difference and the currency exchange, she will be considered to be 17! But of course, if she went to Australia, she might be considered to be 19!

(shaking head in dismay)

Try plan C. Since you can't figure it out, ask her how old she is.

In Paris when the admission is free to under 18yrs olds, even visitors get in free. My son was 14 and he got into many sites free. Not Eiffel Tower though, LOL< but the Louvre and Versailles, and the Cluny were all free. He was not asked to show Id , but I did bring some , just in case. YOur daughter may be asked to show id since she most likely looks her age or close to the limit anyways. You may also hit some places where they won't id her( depends on how old she looks I suppose) . If she has a student card bring it .

Your post said " free if 18 and under" so um, obviously she will be 18 at time of trip.

They count you as the age you really are on the date you are there. You may be asked to show ID to that effect, if the age is not obviously in the proper range.

However, I think this is moot as the Paris museums with free admission related to that age have it for being LESS THAN 18, not 18 and under. At least, I've never seen one that had it as including age 18.

Let's see. . . . You could have ignored the question, answered the question or ridiculed the person for asking the question. I guess the third possibility is the route to take. . .

Heaven help us if someone asks a question that the Travel Gods of Fodors Europe deem impertinent!

"18 and under"
"under 18"

are two entirely different rules. The first includes the age of 18, the second does not.

I just checked some websites, and they said "Most museums : offer free admission to children under 18 years of age".

Your DD is already too old for free admission.

Agree - I've never seen 18 and under - or any age an under. I've only seen it liasted as under 18 - and since she IS 18 0 she;s NOT under 18. So - you have to pay.

On the other hand I have seen it 60 and over, which includes those that are 60.

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Some European museums offer free entry to EUROPEANS 18 and under so check the fine print if necessary!
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europe does not have different pricing structures dictated by a person's citizenship. this contradicts the standards of trade that all civilised nations adhere to.

walkingaround, my kids were admitted free to the Accademia in Florence for example see link. It states that EU residents under 18 are free

tohttp://www.weekendafirenze.com/bigphp/mus.php?skin=fi&mus=accademia

some attractions will have different prices based on residency (what makes a resident anyway? permanent resident?) BUT this does say CITIZENS. quite shocking...

so even lifelong, tax paying residents of italy (non EU-citzens) are not able to take advantage of these offers!!! i think this is quite rare among western countries to discriminate like this.

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Half price tickets (just European Community citizens)
- between 18 and 25 years old
- school teachers
Free tickets:
- non European Community citizens under 6 years old
- European Community citizens under 18 and over 65 years old

If she does have to pay, it might be worth it to get an ISIC card, which is the international student ID card. Google it online. Students get reduced rates at lots or Paris museums (not the Eiffel Tower, though) so it might be worth it. It's not just for Paris, either.

Plus Cluny is free right now for everyone--forget how long that lasts.

I have seen similar confusion on hotel sites.

I would look at the original French text and see if you can figure out the correct age allowance from there.

The Louvre's website says:

"Admission to the Louvre and the Musée Eugène Delacroix is free for the following (valid ID required):
Visitors <b><font color="blue">under</font></b> the age of 18

La gratuit&eacute; d'acc&egrave;s au mus&eacute;e du Louvre et au mus&eacute;e Eug&egrave;ne-Delacroix est accord&eacute;e, sur pr&eacute;sentation d'un justificatif en cours de validit&eacute;, pour :
- les <b><font color="blue">moins de</font></b> 18 ans&quot;

--- so if one has reached one's 18th birthday, one cannot get in for free