Americans Will Need Visa for Europe Beginning 2021
Mar 7th, 2019, 01:39 PM
#1
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Americans Will Need Visa for Europe Beginning 2021
It looks like Americans will have to apply for and receive visas to got to Europe.🥴
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-requirements/americans
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-requirements/americans
Mar 7th, 2019, 02:01 PM
#5
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Originally Posted by Fra_Diavolo
Doesn't seem terribly onerous. American visa policy is based on reciprocity, however, so we might see an end to the visa waiver program and the institution of a B1/B2 visa fee equal to that ETIAS will charge Americans.
Mar 7th, 2019, 02:02 PM
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Per Travel and Leisure,
”In early 2017, the European Union went back and forth over whether or not to pass new visa laws for Americans. In May 2017, the European Commission decided against reinstating visas for Americans, but stated that the decision was contingent upon the U.S. reciprocating visa-free travel for Europeans. At the time, then-secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) John Kelly said that the U.S. needed to reexamine its visa-waiver agreement with Europe, citing potential terrorism risks.”
”In early 2017, the European Union went back and forth over whether or not to pass new visa laws for Americans. In May 2017, the European Commission decided against reinstating visas for Americans, but stated that the decision was contingent upon the U.S. reciprocating visa-free travel for Europeans. At the time, then-secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) John Kelly said that the U.S. needed to reexamine its visa-waiver agreement with Europe, citing potential terrorism risks.”
Mar 7th, 2019, 02:49 PM
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>>>I wonder if dual nationals like my son - born in France to an American father - has both passports but is a resident currently of the U.S. - will they need a visa - think not but not sure?<<<
No. Theyare supposed to travel to Europe on the European passport, and return to the US on the US passport.
No. Theyare supposed to travel to Europe on the European passport, and return to the US on the US passport.
Mar 7th, 2019, 03:12 PM
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I hadn't heard of this, thanks for the heads up. The conditions are really rigorous-- you have to have a passport, a credit card and an email address. Yikes. what to do.
I remember the days when I had to actually go to a consulate to get a visa to visit France, so this is nothing to me.
The biggest danger is just people not knowing.
I remember the days when I had to actually go to a consulate to get a visa to visit France, so this is nothing to me.
The biggest danger is just people not knowing.
Mar 7th, 2019, 05:30 PM
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When one door closes, another opens. Anyone for Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia to offer visa-free access to overseas visitors - Al Arabiya English
Maybe North Korea will be next.
Maybe North Korea will be next.
Mar 7th, 2019, 08:52 PM
#16
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In 1986, Americans needed a Visa for France.
Someone planted a bomb in a topiary on the Champs Ellysee in September, 1986, hence the Visa law.
My mother and I were taken off the TGV at Vallorbe because I did not have a Visa to enter France. I did not need one when we left the US.
Thin
Someone planted a bomb in a topiary on the Champs Ellysee in September, 1986, hence the Visa law.
My mother and I were taken off the TGV at Vallorbe because I did not have a Visa to enter France. I did not need one when we left the US.
Thin
Mar 7th, 2019, 11:36 PM
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Pre 1988 (or thereabouts), Brits needed a visa to visit the USA. You had to get it from the US consulate, it was a stamp in your passport which was marked as “indefinite” and valid for multiple entries. When your passport expired, you took the old passport with the visa stamp along with the new passport when you travelled to the US.
Mar 8th, 2019, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 5alive
The lines for the French Visa were quite long at the embassy in London.
Mar 8th, 2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pepper_von_snoot
In 1986, Americans needed a Visa for France.
Someone planted a bomb in a topiary on the Champs Ellysee in September, 1986, hence the Visa law.
My mother and I were taken off the TGV at Vallorbe because I did not have a Visa to enter France. I did not need one when we left the US.
Thin
Someone planted a bomb in a topiary on the Champs Ellysee in September, 1986, hence the Visa law.
My mother and I were taken off the TGV at Vallorbe because I did not have a Visa to enter France. I did not need one when we left the US.
Thin
I believe that I essentially had a travel visa for a specified number of days when I drove in Czechoslovakia in 1975. It was obtained at the border and I had to buy x-number of Kroner for every day that I stayed. I remember this clearly because we tried to cross from Slovakia to Hungary at a border crossing that was only for locals, which made me lose a day and I had to spend an extra day in the country to apply for an extension at the nearest prefecture. No visa needed for Hungary as far as I remember.
All this to say that as an American I do not recall any visa application for travel as a tourist in Western Europe. My parents spent 15 years in France as apatrides, which meant applying for travel permits whenever they wanted to see family in Germany and Switzerland post W.W.II. My parents applied for American citizenship as soon as they could not out of patriotism but for the convenience of the American passport--no more visa applications to this or that country within Western Europe, starting in 1960 for them.
The 1986 visa requirement sounds very weird, especially as it was imposed after a legal non-visa entry to the country.
