AirBNB in London - soon to be a thing of the past?
Sep 29th, 2016, 11:51 AM
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<i>I was surprised as I never thought of Nashville as a hotbed of tourism where people would be wanting short-term apt rentals.</i>
Indeed we are, and were even before Uber, though that's certainly helped. Tourism here has exploded especially in the last 5-10 years, along with substantial population growth.
<i>Hotels in Nashville aren't really that expensive, comparatively.</i>
Last I checked (a couple of months ago), hotels in downtown Nashville were often more expensive than hotels in Manhattan. I'm not making that up. A relatively sudden rise in tourism combined with hotels taking awhile to build means prices go up. More hotels are in the works, but that's a long-term solution.
Our housing prices have skyrocketed over the last several years as well, due not only to Airbnb, but also people moving in from all over, often from areas with much higher housing prices. Nashville is hot right now.
So yep, Airbnb is a very hot topic at our Metro Council meetings lately. It's an interesting mix of a relatively liberal city in a very conservative state combined with a whole lot of recent transplants.
Indeed we are, and were even before Uber, though that's certainly helped. Tourism here has exploded especially in the last 5-10 years, along with substantial population growth.
<i>Hotels in Nashville aren't really that expensive, comparatively.</i>
Last I checked (a couple of months ago), hotels in downtown Nashville were often more expensive than hotels in Manhattan. I'm not making that up. A relatively sudden rise in tourism combined with hotels taking awhile to build means prices go up. More hotels are in the works, but that's a long-term solution.
Our housing prices have skyrocketed over the last several years as well, due not only to Airbnb, but also people moving in from all over, often from areas with much higher housing prices. Nashville is hot right now.
So yep, Airbnb is a very hot topic at our Metro Council meetings lately. It's an interesting mix of a relatively liberal city in a very conservative state combined with a whole lot of recent transplants.
Sep 29th, 2016, 11:53 AM
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<<Welcome to the club. I have no objection to the renting of rooms. But do not cry "necessity." The possibility to travel is not a necessity.>>
Sorry, but some of us would wither and die if we could not travel. I'm quite sure my life expectancy would be curtailed if I couldn't do quite a number of things, travel high among them. Talk about keeping the brain and senses alive!
We live on a fixed income, too, or rather we keep ourselves to a fixed amount of spending per day/week/month. People on fixed incomes make choices how to spend their money. We choose to scrimp in certain areas and make it up on travel. I do believe it's a life-prolonger, a memory-enhancer, a sensory improver, and it makes you move around a lot more than you might otherwise. Plus, as I get older I notice a group of friends and acquaintances who seem to lose a sense of curiosity, which I do believe is essential to good health and longevity. I cannot imagine ever not being wildly curious about exploring new places. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money. You can even do it without leaving far from home.
Sorry, but some of us would wither and die if we could not travel. I'm quite sure my life expectancy would be curtailed if I couldn't do quite a number of things, travel high among them. Talk about keeping the brain and senses alive!
We live on a fixed income, too, or rather we keep ourselves to a fixed amount of spending per day/week/month. People on fixed incomes make choices how to spend their money. We choose to scrimp in certain areas and make it up on travel. I do believe it's a life-prolonger, a memory-enhancer, a sensory improver, and it makes you move around a lot more than you might otherwise. Plus, as I get older I notice a group of friends and acquaintances who seem to lose a sense of curiosity, which I do believe is essential to good health and longevity. I cannot imagine ever not being wildly curious about exploring new places. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money. You can even do it without leaving far from home.
Sep 29th, 2016, 12:14 PM
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I have always traveled.
I have slept under a bridge at Atlanta because I couldn't find a room within my budget. I have been doing camping when young. I now indulge from time to time with some good hotels (the one in Playa del Carmen cost me an arm).
If I had to cut my spendings, I'd do it on a lot of things before coming to travel costs.
I think a lot of people are like it here : hard earned money and making choices but not curtailing on travel.
When pleasure is in the game, I tend to increase budget for lodging - and reduce number of days, which are in any case limited, not having the good fortune of being retired.
Bon, sur ce, where is my glass of wine (Rodeberg, a good south african wine for about 6€ per bottle).
I have slept under a bridge at Atlanta because I couldn't find a room within my budget. I have been doing camping when young. I now indulge from time to time with some good hotels (the one in Playa del Carmen cost me an arm).
If I had to cut my spendings, I'd do it on a lot of things before coming to travel costs.
I think a lot of people are like it here : hard earned money and making choices but not curtailing on travel.
When pleasure is in the game, I tend to increase budget for lodging - and reduce number of days, which are in any case limited, not having the good fortune of being retired.
Bon, sur ce, where is my glass of wine (Rodeberg, a good south african wine for about 6€ per bottle).
Sep 29th, 2016, 01:28 PM
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..hotels in downtown Nashville were often more expensive than hotels in Manhattan.>>
Well, I'm just very surprised in that not that I've checked Nashville hotels a lot. Out of curiosity, I checked Sat 10/8 (holiday weekend) as I'm going to Manhattan then and the hotel rates were $450-550 a night in midtown which shocked even me. I admit they are very high in Nashville that one night, also, but still below Manhattan. But I was surprised how high they were (like $400).
Well, I'm just very surprised in that not that I've checked Nashville hotels a lot. Out of curiosity, I checked Sat 10/8 (holiday weekend) as I'm going to Manhattan then and the hotel rates were $450-550 a night in midtown which shocked even me. I admit they are very high in Nashville that one night, also, but still below Manhattan. But I was surprised how high they were (like $400).
Sep 29th, 2016, 02:06 PM
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Yes, I didn't say uniformly and always higher than Manhattan. The point is that you wouldn't expect them to even be close in price, and yet, here we are. And that is one reason Airbnb is so very popular for visitors here. (The other reason is that they can stay in the trendy neighborhoods they read about, few of which have hotels at all, vs the downtown tourist district.)
Sep 29th, 2016, 03:47 PM
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<i>We on limited incomes may use our Airbnb income for travel </i>
Did you forgo travel 10 years ago because Airbnb did not exist? It appears that "necessity" is a term as elastic as "middle class."
Did you forgo travel 10 years ago because Airbnb did not exist? It appears that "necessity" is a term as elastic as "middle class."
Sep 29th, 2016, 04:17 PM
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"Did you forgo travel 10 years ago because Airbnb did not exist? It appears that "necessity" is a term as elastic as "middle class.""
What's elastic is the means by which we provide ourselves our necessities, not whether they're necessary or not. Speaking for myself, 10 years ago I arranged to work half-time to pay for my necessary travel. Now I don't work except to provide hospitality to my Airbnb guests to pay for my necessary travel. The means has changed, not the necessity.
What's elastic is the means by which we provide ourselves our necessities, not whether they're necessary or not. Speaking for myself, 10 years ago I arranged to work half-time to pay for my necessary travel. Now I don't work except to provide hospitality to my Airbnb guests to pay for my necessary travel. The means has changed, not the necessity.
