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A trip to Europe - Visited 14 cities in 15 days

A trip to Europe - Visited 14 cities in 15 days

Apr 11th, 2014, 05:22 PM
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A trip to Europe - Visited 14 cities in 15 days

In early September 2013, we had a trip to Europe, covering 14 cities in 15 days. Some of them were passing through, but we still had a very good taste of the cities with a very well planned itineraries. The cities we visited were Mainz(Germany), Wiesbaden(Germany), Frankfurt(Germany), Vienna(Austria), Salzburg(Austria), Innsbruck(Germany), Venice(Italy), Padova(Italy), Rome(Italy), Florence(Italy), Pisa(Italy), Cinque Terre(Italy), Milan(Italy), Zurich(Switzerland), and Lake Lucerne(Switzerland).
We saved our time and money by not going to most of the museum, and also we traveled in between cities by booking advance train tickets. We also used all the local transportation to get around the cities. It needed a lot of searches in advance, but we saved money and time in the end. Basically we mapped out everything before we were there, making small cards to carry around so that we could ask people if we got lost. We only encountered one or two challenges, other than that, the whole trip was just smooth and wonderful.
The last leg of the trip at Lake Lucerne was such a wonderful experience. We bought the package for visiting Pilatus, and it was a well worth money spend on that day.
We flew in to Frankfurt, and flew out from Zurich.
Day 1
Arriving Frankfurt airport at noon, took a local train S8 to Mainz main train station (Mainz Hauptbahnhof) and took a local tram to Town Hall station, then a short walk to Hilton Hotel. The hotel is just by the confluence of the rivers of Main and Rhine. Mainz is a small city, and was easy to get to the city square. After checking in and put down our bags, we headed out to explore on foot. There was a cultural fair in the city square, and we got a taste of the local food and beer.
Day 2
We bought a day pass at the main station that would cover the transportation in Mainz and Wiesbaden. We hopped on one of the local bus that would cross the river and go to the main station of Wiesbaden. We changed another bus that would stop town hall area where all the activities were. We aimed for students when we wanted to ask for direction, as they are more likely to understand English. We had a good four hours to explore the city, and we had a good time there as it was a beautiful day.
We took a bus back to Mainz, retrieved our bags and decided to stop by the St. Stephan Church which is famous for its Marc Chagall windows. Later, we just took a slow walk to the main train station, passing the university of Mainz. Our City Nite train from Frankfurt to Vienna would depart at 11pm, so we had plenty of time to explore the city of Frankfurt. The train ride from Mainz to Frankfurt was about 30-40 minutes. After arriving the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, We put our bags in the lockers again, and started on foot towards the Altstadt (old town). We walked through the red light zone, and turned right to the river bank. It was still bright day light, so there was not so crazy to walked pass the zone, but we decided to take a different path later to the central train station for our night train. We simply just admired all these beautiful old architectural buildings. The Romerberg, Iron steel bridge, and the half-timbered houses are indeed very cool. We had a gorgeous sunset by the river, even though we did not get to try the frankfurter and the apple cider beer. We covered most of the well-known sights, and met a couple of young air hostesses and had a good chat with them. We had a wonderful evening at the old town.
Later,we did a loop to the financial district and visited the ground of the old opera house. It was so beautiful with all the lights lit around the building. As we were getting pretty tired with all the walking, and decided to ask people the direction back to the station. They were nice to direct us away the crazy zone, and we arrived the station safe and sound, and with plenty of time to spare before the train arrived. We paid more for a two-people booth with beds, and it was quite an experience to sleep on bunk bed on a train. We saved on a hotel stay, and paid for a night sleep on train with time saved for our next destination.
Day 3
We woke up with a bright sun shining through the window, and the conductor knocking at the door, telling us that breakfast would be served in a few minutes. We quickly did a wash-up, and the conductor came to stow away the lower bunk bed, and ‘serve us’ breakfast. We arrived Wien Westbahnof bright and early, and we were very excited for the good day ahead of us. We figured out how to buy our day pass on the ticket machine, and hopped onto the metro for our hotel, Wien Renaissance by Marriott. Our plan was to visit the Schronbrunn Palace which is the next metro stop by our hotel. We left our bags at the hotel storage even though we were not able to check in that early. So, we walked across the street, and hopped on the next metro to the Schronbrunn Palace.
Indeed it is a very big and nice ground to visit. The best thing is it is free to explore the ground and garden except for entering the palace. That was exactly what we did, it was very beautiful just to walk inside the ground. We spent about two to three hours to see the area, and went back to check in the hotel before going to the inner city of Wien. We almost walked the entire city in that half a day. We really like Vienna, everything is big and beautiful, and we will visit again next time if we plan to visit other areas of Europe. Dinner was good with a glass of wine, and people were really friendly. We had a good night sleep at the hotel.
Day 4
Waking up early the next morning, and had the free breakfast with a big crowd of Japanese tourists. We left early to catch a train to Salzburg-the birth place of Mozart. Another exciting day ahead of us, and it was a good nice sunny day. It was about a 2 hours train ride to Salzburg. We again making use of the locker to store our bags, and also bought our Salzburg cards for the day. The card indeed was very useful for us, as it covered most of the museum fees, an hour cruise ride on the river, cable car ride to Untersburg, cockwheel to the Hohensalzburg castle, and all the bus ride within the zone. Total cost was Euro 45.00, and well-worth for us. We laid out our plan for the day, and executed the plan successfully. We visited the Mirabell garden, Mozart’s birth place and museum, the cruise ride to the Hellsbrunn Palace, cable car ride to Untersburg, and took a bus-ride back to the city center, went on the corkwheel to Hohensalzburg castle, and visited the fountain scene where The Sound of Music were filmed. A very good successful day indeed. Later the evening, we caught the train to Innsbruck, where our next hotel for the night was. On the train, we met this nice young German lady. We had a very conversation with her, until the day now, I still regret not having ask her for an email address.
Day 5
We stayed at the Innsbruck Hilton for the night, and asked for a high floor room. We had a very good view of the mountains and the city. Unfortunately it was a rainy cloudy day, but we still woke up with high spirit for the day. We went out to explore the city on foot, even the rain could not dampened our spirits. Innsbruck is a beautiful city. The buildings are so colorful, and just imagine it is a bright sunny day, the city will be full of life and energy. We left the city at noon. That would be a five hours train ride with gorgeous sceneries along the way. It was a very pleasant and relax journey, and all the towns along the way had quite a number of backpackers getting in and out the train. When the train cross border to Italy, there were rolls of vineyards mingled in the valley, and the backdrop was the mountains surrounding the valley. The train passed Verona, Padua, then arrived at Venice. When we booked the train tickets the time, we were not sure if we should stop at Padua or Venice. Since we could make our way back by bus to Padua, we thought it would be nice to see Venice at night. Our hotel was based at Padua for two nights.
When we arrived at Venice, the day was still bright. After putting our bags for storage, we went over the bridge to find the bus terminal to buy our tickets back to the hotel. This proved to be the biggest challenge for our entire trip. We printed out all the information from the internet, bought our tickets for the bus, but finding the right bus to board later was the biggest problem. They had different bus companies going to Padua with different stops. We almost got on the wrong bus, but found out in the nick of time before the bus left the station. We jumped off the bus and found the right bus later. There was sure a lot of confusion in that terminal, and people were not as friendly, and they do not speak English to you. Even in this hour, the city of Venice still had a lot of tourists in most of the alleys. We spent three hours walking around, and decided later not to come back the next day.
Day 6
We had a very nice and beautiful day in Padua. It is a very nice old renaissance town, less crowded, and just as charming and full of history. We walked the walled city, visited the Anatomy Theatre (where Galileo Galilei taught for 18 years), the oldest fix anatomy theatre in the world, the San Anthony’s area, the Prato Della Valle, the Basilica of S. Giustina, the magnificent Palazzo della Ragione, and some other churches along the way.
Day 7
We left Padua in the morning, taking our first Italian bullet train, Frecciargento, to Rome. It was a three hours journey. We arrived Roma Termini at noon, bought our metro tickets, and figured the way to Rome Courtyard Central Park Hotel. After checking in the hotel, and again dropped our bags, taking another metro to the Vatican City. It was a warm beautiful day, and we were very happy to walk around the Vatican City. The line to the Basilica was just too long, and we decided just to explore the outside, and moved on to find the Spanish Steps. We were on foot walking and walking, tons of people were walking here and there too. We were not very sure where exactly we were heading to, but just kept on moving as the other people. It was pretty confusing to figure out the right street to get where you want to go, so we just follow other people. We did a lot of walking and saw a lot of the Rome’s famous landmarks. We really enjoyed the espresso and food in Rome. Later the day, we took the metro back to the hotel, and we actually could see the Basilica from our hotel room. Tomorrow would be another day to explore Rome.
Day 8
It was another cloudy day, forecasted to rain later the day. We woke early again and decided to try our luck again for the San Peter Basilica. It was a Sunday, and The Pope might come out to greet after the mass at noon. We took our metro again to the Vatican City. We sure knew our way a lot better after yesterday’s exploring. Wasting no time, we arrived early, and indeed we were very lucky (I guessed people just want to come later for the mass), the line was very short and we got inside in less than 15 minutes wait time. The words described should be majestic and magnificent inside the Basilica. We were so blessed to witness the grand scale of this structure built long time ago. We took the whole morning walking around and also climbed those 320 steps to the top of the dome. There was no line and everything just moved smoothly. When we came out of the Basilica, there was this down pour from the sky, but it was only intermediate. We decided not to wait for the Pope, as we were not sure it was going to happen. Later the day, we found out he did come out to greet. We went to the heart of Rome with all the sights, managed to see most of the famous architectural buildings. It was a very good day even with the rain on and off.
Day 9
We left Rome around 10:30am, and arrived Firenze S. M. Novella by Frecciargento at 12pm. We found the local tram just outside the train station, hopped on and got to our hotel in less than 30 minutes, with some time lost in finding the hotel after getting off the tram. We checked in our hotel, dropped our bags, and quickly hopped the tram back to the train station. We managed to figure our way to the city center pretty well this time. Florence is not as big as Rome, and we just followed the Arno River, it directly brought us to the Vecchio Bridge where all the hustles and bustles were. It was a pretty nice day, and we had a nice time rooming around. The best part was we walked in these alleys to look for the Duomo, and all of the sudden, it just opened out in front of us, and my jaw just dropped. It is really a great piece of art. Everything is so perfect, and the details are so intrigued. We just stood in awe in front of the Duomo. I just marveled the ancient people who built this magnificent piece of art without any modern tools.
Day 10
We woke up early thinking we might be able to see the sunrise along the Arna River. Unfortunately it was a cloudy day. We went back to the city center, took some picture, and walked around to see the daily life of Florence in the morning. Later that afternoon, we checked out our hotel and headed to our next destination, Pisa. We do not need to book this section of train tickets as it is local train. We used Pisa as our base to visit Cinque Terre the next day, so we had two nights at Pisa, coming back to Florence at noon, and would took the Frecciarossa to Milan. We did go to visit the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and the Piazza del Duomo that evening.
Day 11
The trip to Cinque Terre was over all a little disappointing. Those trains connecting the villages just over flowed with tourists. That was an incident that a person was injured trying to get on the over packing train. After that, we decided not to stop at all the villages, just stayed with one, and enjoyed our leisure time as the trails were shut down due to mud-slide damages in 2011. We had good gelato there, and food was pretty good, just too many tourists every corners you walked right to. This visit reminded us the same experience in Venice. We still had a good time though.
Day 12
We left Pisa in the morning, heading back to Florence to take our Frecciarossa train to Milan at noon. The journey took less than two hours, and we arrived to the Milano Centrale before 2pm. The subway system in Milan is fantastic. We found our subway line, bought the tickets and went to our next hotel. We did the usual checked in, and headed back to the city center to explore. We visited the Sforza Castle, Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II, Piazza del Duomo, and of course the beautiful Milan Duomo. We even took a subway later that evening to Navigli. The sunset along the canal designed by Leonardo was so beautiful. We also went window shopping the most expensive fashion street in the world.
Day 13
Early the morning after breakfast, we headed to the Milan Duoma again. There was no line to climb up those steps to the top. It was really beautiful at the top except for the scaffoldings that covered the top. I was a bit disappointed, but it was still a very good experience and worth the effort. After that, we just walked around the area, and our train to Zurich was at 3pm, so there was plenty of time for us to take it easy. We like Milan, there were less tourists, and easy to get to places by metro, buses, or by trams. We covered a lot of grounds in half a day, and we still had another half a day before we left for Zurich. We met interesting, and nice people here too. They were more willing to help us for direction when we decided to try taking bus back to our hotel. There was this friendly Italian old lady trying so hard on the bus to show us nice places along the way. Of course, it was all by hand signals communication, and we enjoyed meeting people like this.
We left Milan around 3pm for Zurich. It was the nicest train ride for the whole trip. The scenaries, the mountains, and the engineering of the railway were such wonders that it opened my eyes for the capability of human kind. The journey passes a number of the passes, climbing up the mountains, going through a lot of tunnels, and sure enough it circles the church at Wassen 3 times. That was such an experience! The nature and human architectural structures just mingled in a harmonized manner. Train system in Europe is really something to marvel, as all the historical structures we have visited. We reached our hotel around 8pm, and decided to call it a day. Tomorrow would be another big challenge. We were to visit Lake Lucerne, and it was going to be a very sunny day.
Will continue.................
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Apr 11th, 2014, 06:03 PM
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Hey, you had a good time. That's all that counts. I did crazy trips when I was younger and have some fond (yet incredibly tiring) memories. Next trip, you might want to slow the pace…a lot. Next time stay in Venice for a few nights. You will appreciate it. I hated it the first time because I also just did a day trip from Padua. I called it "Disneyland On Speed," but now we love it.

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Apr 11th, 2014, 06:17 PM
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I am "nearly" speechless at hearing your pace, but glad you enjoyed it so much.
It was good you know yourself and had no interest in art museums - that would have slowed you down considerably.

Did you see the Sistine Chapel, the Colosseum or the Pantheon in Rome?
Was there a special reasoning for your choice to backtrack to Florence rather than go on to Milan from the CT? I have not done it, so am curious about different ways people do things.
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Apr 11th, 2014, 06:43 PM
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Oh my! I'm speechless...and quite tired just reading this. But love his upbeat attitude.
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I'm glad you seemed to enjoy your trip but I'm confused as to your purpose in visiting some of these places. It sounds like you were in a lot of these amazing cities purely for the chance to check off a list or something. In 4-5 hours you might be able to walk past a handful of places or actually enter about 2, maybe 3, of them. I think you spent more time in a train car than you did actually out seeing the places you were sprinting through.

I know that everyone travels differently and that there is no 'right' way, but I'm just afraid that in your whirlwind visit you've been in such a hurry to run past a few big name places that you've completely missed the beauty of the cities.
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"I'm glad you 'seemed' to enjoy your trip" - this one made me smile.

So, you're each here to assist people with your knowledge and experience as travelers, right?
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Apr 11th, 2014, 08:09 PM
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I'm calling bs on the phrase that reads 'but we still had a very good taste of the cities'. Nah, you had a glimpse of those cities.

Anyway....... I'm glad you enjoyed your trip.
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So, where are you going to recuperate from your trip?
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Like others above, I'm glad that you enjoyed your very brief taste of these European cities.

I, too, would like to spend longer at each destination -- at least 4 nights is my own comfort level. That way, I can figure out a little about each city, such as that Innsbruck is in Austria, not Germany . . . ; )

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Cherthor -- If you scan through one of my trip reports, you will quickly see that my travel style is exactly the opposite of yours. You will find this difficult to believe, but I prefer going slow and sometimes sitting in one city for a week I would not survive travelling with you ... and you would be bored stiff going with me (!), but that does not mean that one of us is somehow doing something wrong.

I can see that you loved your trip, that you really enjoyed most of it, that you knew what to look out for, that you have good memories and photos of amazing places, that you met a few interesting people, and especially that you put a lot of thought and planning into this trip before you started out. Thanks for taking time to write this up and sharing. FYI - I stayed in Venice for 3 days and I was glad to leave. It is a matter of personality and taste.

Looking forward to the rest of your report.
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Actually, this is one of the more useful trip reports I have read one it comes to real-life planning for spending a day in the places most travelers on Fodor's typically spend a day or less.

Other people seem to have forgotten that many Fodor's travelers -- including some slinging insults here -- took day trips and half-day trips to Mainz, Wiesbaden, Frankfurt , Salzburg, Innsbruck , Venice, Padova, , Florence, Pisa, Cinque Terre, Milan , Zurich, and Lake Lucerne. When they came back and wrote up their trip reports talking about all the fun they had visiting these places for a day, other Fodorites cooed all over them, especially if they were known fellow "Fodorites" of long standing.

The mistake this poster made was revealing in the title that they saw 14 cities in 15 days rather than titling their report: °The Joy of Day Trips in Europe!" The knives were out before the perpetually ungracious and so-so-superior-Fodorites had read even the first sentence. They just rolled out the cliches and the self'dramatizing garment ripping and cries of "Blasphemer!"

Get a grip folks. It is entirely possible to enjoy a day trip to Padova or even Florence. And not everybody would enjoy 4 nights in Pisa. Most people who ask on Fodor's about Frankfurt are derided for even wanting to see it at all -- so suddenly spending a day there is criminally too short?

I have no trouble believing these people had fun. I have trouble believing many of the people who post on Fodor's ever actually travel anymore.
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I too enjoyed reading your report and look forward to more. I especially appreciated the section on Padova, but overall it made me feel good to know that you actually appreciated seeing so many beautiful sights in Europe.

It has been pretty depressing to read so many other trip reports on Fodor's where people go to a beautiful city for a day but show up without a map, don't know what they are looking at, give up and go off and overeat and get drunk, and then end up sick. Half their trip reports are about how they didn't even bother to check what time their flight or train was leaving, how they spent most of their time lost or in their hotel room trying to recover from overeating. Even more depressing is to read the comments people make about their reports like "Woo-hoo! Love it! Can't wait for more." I have a hard time believing those people when they say they love their trips. I believe you!

Looking forward to the rest of your report and I think it will be useful to other people who want to take a meaningful day trip to the places you day tripped, much more so than the "we bombed into town without a map and could care less about art anyway" reports.
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Sandralist, you better provide the links to those reports, I've never read one like you described and I've read quite a few.
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Sandralist -- this is the 2nd time in a short while that you complain about people on Fodor's who post about how they
" ... overeat, get drunk, then end up sick ..."

For other posters, have a look at her comment of 27 March at:

I agree with cathies - please provide the link so that we can all share your disgust.

To the OP: this is your first TR on the Europe forum. Please do not be put off by the negativity. Most Fodorites are actually kind and nice.
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sandralist loves trashing the people who post on this board. She's well known for it under her current name and many others. She does not believe in substantiating her nasty or negative comments.

I've also never read TRs such as sandralist describes. If she is so put off by TRs posted here then she should decide not to read them or keep her comments to herself.
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Thanks for posting your visit report, makes you think.
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It has been pretty depressing to read so many other trip reports on Fodor's where people go to a beautiful city for a day but show up without a map, don't know what they are looking at, give up and go off and overeat and get drunk, and then end up sick.>>

i too would like to see some links to these trip reports that you cite, Sandralist.

put up or shut up.

Cherthor - I'm very glad that you had such a good time. your style is not my style, but that doesn't matter one jot, and i'm looking forward to reading about the rest of your travels.

if you have the time, could you tell us what you liked most, if there was anything that didn't work out, and if you'd do anything different next time? that might be useful information for others contemplating a trip like this. We get many people posting these sorts of itineraries, but they rarely come back to tell us how it worked out, so your advice would be very valuable for them.
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"Other people seem to have forgotten that many Fodor's travelers -- including some slinging insults here -- took day trips and half-day trips"

I have, on occasion, done day trips - to Wells for the cathedral, to Thanjavur for the temple - but I have never put together a whole trip of them. maitaitom's post points out the downside of doing so - Venice shows a different face to those who spend the night.

However, I agree that this is a valuable TR. Next time someone posts a suggested itinerary of this form we can send them here to see if they would have enjoyed this trip.
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<<<"I'm glad you 'seemed' to enjoy your trip" - this one made me smile.>>>

Aramis, you inserted quotes where there weren't any and that entirely changes how it sounds. Those two little marks change it from a simple statement to a sarcastic and snotty one. I can be snotty and sarcastic on my own, I don't need help doing so when it's not intended that way.

Innsbruck... they arrived in the late evening, spent the night and had to leave the city at noon for a 5 hour train ride to the next place. That means that they only had a few hours in Innsbruck. Instead of spending the night and a few hours, would they have been able to see more of another city if they had skipped it altogether? I'm simply afraid that a visit of a couple hours would be enough for someone to say that they've been there, it was nice, but they don't need to go back and they end up missing out on a great little city.
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