3 week backing packing trip
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3 week backing packing trip
Hello All,
I have a three week backing packing extravaganza to plan for.
A friend and I are flying in and out of Frankfurt Germany. We intend to visit Berlin, Prague, Budapest Vienna, Venice, Milan, Barcelona, and Paris (in that order).
It may sound like a lot, but we are really hoping to see as many countries & cities in the time that we have. We have many interests and are solely going to experience the culture and scenery. Interested in outdoor activities, bars, food, minor night life and many more.
I am looking for help on a good itinerary that includes most, if not all, the cities and countries mentioned above. I greatly appreciate any responses and help I can get.
I have a three week backing packing extravaganza to plan for.
A friend and I are flying in and out of Frankfurt Germany. We intend to visit Berlin, Prague, Budapest Vienna, Venice, Milan, Barcelona, and Paris (in that order).
It may sound like a lot, but we are really hoping to see as many countries & cities in the time that we have. We have many interests and are solely going to experience the culture and scenery. Interested in outdoor activities, bars, food, minor night life and many more.
I am looking for help on a good itinerary that includes most, if not all, the cities and countries mentioned above. I greatly appreciate any responses and help I can get.
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If you're backpacking, LOnely PLanet's ThornTree or even 4chan /trv/ is a better place to see information regarding hostels and such.
Eight cities in 21 days (how many full days do you have?) is whirlwind trip to say the least. Have you actually sat down and figured out travel times between cities? At 2.6 days per city, you aren't going to "experience the culture" of anything except the rushed backpacker.
Eight cities in 21 days (how many full days do you have?) is whirlwind trip to say the least. Have you actually sat down and figured out travel times between cities? At 2.6 days per city, you aren't going to "experience the culture" of anything except the rushed backpacker.
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That 2.6 assumes you can instantly get from one city to the next.
Come back with how many days in each city and then we can give you a list of stuff to see/do then you and your friends can decide what you actually want to do. Or, you can head to the local Barnes & Nobel and sift through travel guides then come back here with specific questions.
Come back with how many days in each city and then we can give you a list of stuff to see/do then you and your friends can decide what you actually want to do. Or, you can head to the local Barnes & Nobel and sift through travel guides then come back here with specific questions.
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So you have three weeks and have listed 8 cities you want to visit. Be aware that changing locations east up the time you had planned for sightseeing and such. You lose at least half a day and up to a full day each time you change locations. (You have to figure froth time you check out of lodgings in one place until you check in at the next place.)
How many nights will you have on the ground in Europe? It takes 3 nights to get two days in a place. With the time you have that means, at most, 3 r 4 nights in a place. Does two or three days give you the time you need to see/do/experience what you re going for? If not, cut a couple of cities. If budget is a factor, remember that moving around is costly in terms of money as well as time.
How many nights will you have on the ground in Europe? It takes 3 nights to get two days in a place. With the time you have that means, at most, 3 r 4 nights in a place. Does two or three days give you the time you need to see/do/experience what you re going for? If not, cut a couple of cities. If budget is a factor, remember that moving around is costly in terms of money as well as time.
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Three weeks is not an extravaganza. If by backpacking you mean you are carrying your clothes etc. in a backpack, why? A wheeled case for the kind of trip you are planning is just as viable and will save your back. And the others are, of course, quite right. All you will experience is a lot of trains and planes.
Why are you flying in and out of the same city? Fly into the most northerly or westerly and out of the most southerly or easterly - it will be multi-city trip on the websites. Otherwise you will waste money, and time that you do not have, on backtracking.
Start by dropping Barcelona and Milan. Fly into Venice and out of Paris, if this is a spring or summer trip, or vice versa if it is autumn.
Why are you flying in and out of the same city? Fly into the most northerly or westerly and out of the most southerly or easterly - it will be multi-city trip on the websites. Otherwise you will waste money, and time that you do not have, on backtracking.
Start by dropping Barcelona and Milan. Fly into Venice and out of Paris, if this is a spring or summer trip, or vice versa if it is autumn.
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We intend to visit Berlin, Prague, Budapest Vienna, Venice, Milan, Barcelona, and Paris (in that order).>
That is a good a order as any - you can take overnight trains between some of them to save time and the cost of a hotel.
There are overnight and all the next day boats between Italy and Barcelona that might be an adventure and something different -but the train between the two is too long so fly (unless wanting to break your journey in say the French Riviera).
You should look into a Eurail Select Saverpass for trains - in most countries just hop on any train anytime (not in Italy nor Barcelona to Paris (another possible flight) - anyway for loads of great info on European trains and passes check www.seat61.com - great info on discounted tickets you can also get but those are sold in limited numbers and thus must be booked weeks/months in advance in stone (often not changeable or refundable) and a series of those in 2nd class may still not be less than the first-class Select Pass; www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com.
That is a good a order as any - you can take overnight trains between some of them to save time and the cost of a hotel.
There are overnight and all the next day boats between Italy and Barcelona that might be an adventure and something different -but the train between the two is too long so fly (unless wanting to break your journey in say the French Riviera).
You should look into a Eurail Select Saverpass for trains - in most countries just hop on any train anytime (not in Italy nor Barcelona to Paris (another possible flight) - anyway for loads of great info on European trains and passes check www.seat61.com - great info on discounted tickets you can also get but those are sold in limited numbers and thus must be booked weeks/months in advance in stone (often not changeable or refundable) and a series of those in 2nd class may still not be less than the first-class Select Pass; www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com.
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If you want primarily scenery and outdoor activities why are you visiting only big cities?
It seems like you should be in small towns and the countryside if you rally want only outdoor activities.
Oh - and while you can get to all of the places you list I doubt if you will see much of any of them.
It seems like you should be in small towns and the countryside if you rally want only outdoor activities.
Oh - and while you can get to all of the places you list I doubt if you will see much of any of them.
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