Carnival Legend "suicide"
May 31st, 2006, 06:26 AM
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Carnival Legend "suicide"
What's everyone's take on this? First report was suicide, now the spouse says that it was not a suicide. He either jumped/fell off his balcony after an argument with his wife about his bar tab that was overheard by neighbors.
Is she alleging that he was murdered? Or that he simply fell off the balcony? (that would be pretty difficult to do accidentally.)
Is she alleging that he was murdered? Or that he simply fell off the balcony? (that would be pretty difficult to do accidentally.)
May 31st, 2006, 07:14 AM
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Not difficult to fall off the balcony if you are drunk, especially if you are sitting on the railing, or leaning over, and the ship is rolling.
I've seen 20-somethings sitting on the railings while the ship is docked. Can you just imagine the stupid games played while drunk and out at sea?
I've seen 20-somethings sitting on the railings while the ship is docked. Can you just imagine the stupid games played while drunk and out at sea?
May 31st, 2006, 09:05 AM
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There were actually 2 cases on 2 different Carnival Ships within a week, one on Inspiration was clearly a suicide.
This is what was printed:
May 27
Carnival Legend
Carnival Cruise Line A male passenger jumped overboard in front of his wife and two young sons, apparently during an argument over onboard spending, including gambling and alcohol. The ship was 650 miles offshore after leaving Tortola on its return to New York. A 12 search was undertaken without results. The May 28 cruise departed late because of an arrival that was 11 hour late.
Overboard
May 20
Inspiration
Carnival Cruise Line An 82-year old man who was traveling by himself went missing and, based on a note found, is presumed to have committed suicide.
Suicide
This is what was printed:
May 27
Carnival Legend
Carnival Cruise Line A male passenger jumped overboard in front of his wife and two young sons, apparently during an argument over onboard spending, including gambling and alcohol. The ship was 650 miles offshore after leaving Tortola on its return to New York. A 12 search was undertaken without results. The May 28 cruise departed late because of an arrival that was 11 hour late.
Overboard
May 20
Inspiration
Carnival Cruise Line An 82-year old man who was traveling by himself went missing and, based on a note found, is presumed to have committed suicide.
Suicide
May 31st, 2006, 03:54 PM
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What most people don't realize is if you jump/are thrown/go over board is that most likely you will be pulled under the ship. Then the props will chew you up. As a dumb teenage, a friend was sitting on the bow (FRONT) of a small motor boat. When they hit a wake she was tossed overboard. She did survive after 172 stitched along her legs where the engine prop hit her. She realized how lucky she was. Still get goose bumbs when I see anyone with feet over the bow!
May 31st, 2006, 05:37 PM
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My DH said that would be the perfect way to get rid of a spouse. Then later he said, "hey honey, for our 25th anniversary, Ive booked us a lovely balcony cabin aboard the s.s. minnow...."
Jes funnin, no disrespect intended!!!
Jes funnin, no disrespect intended!!!
Jun 1st, 2006, 08:30 AM
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It sounded pretty pathetic: "I have wondered about Ziana for a long time".
Get a LIFE!!!
English is my second language that I had learned from scratch at age of 28, happy now?
Spur,
so far ALL of my questions were answered by people, so keep enjoying until you will start to understand.
Get a LIFE!!!
English is my second language that I had learned from scratch at age of 28, happy now?
Spur,
so far ALL of my questions were answered by people, so keep enjoying until you will start to understand.
Jun 1st, 2006, 08:34 AM
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bonnie,
it is scary what you just said.
I never thought of it. So he must have died then...
lightfoot,
we were planning on this too but with rail going too inward it is not that easy. We couldn't even get rid of drunk person...lol
it is scary what you just said.
I never thought of it. So he must have died then...
lightfoot,
we were planning on this too but with rail going too inward it is not that easy. We couldn't even get rid of drunk person...lol
Jun 1st, 2006, 11:49 AM
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So is she saying that someone came in & pushed him off the balcony while they were arguing, with their children in plain sight & all their neighbors listening?
Or did she get an attorney in case she is charged w/murder? This is very intriguing.
Or did she get an attorney in case she is charged w/murder? This is very intriguing.
Jun 1st, 2006, 01:34 PM
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I was actually on this cruise when it happened. I do believe the man jumped since he placed a chair under the railing of the balcony. He had lost all of his money in the casino. We spent 14 hours circiling the Atlantic going 2knots!
Jun 4th, 2006, 03:44 AM
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There is so much movement around the ships as they cruise along and most of these seem to happen at night...keep it in perspective, you think the Titanic was big ? It was only 46,328 tonnage, while the Carnival Legend is 88,500...The new Royal Caribbean monsters are 160,000 +...I'm sure they get rolled by waves and pulled under quickly, not to mention the fall, especially from a higher deck.
Jun 4th, 2006, 07:06 AM
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Wednesday,
Ships do roll, a matter of fact this was one of the most tuberlant cruises I have been one. Just so happens, the night the man did jump and take his own life, the ship was as smooth as a babys bottom. In addition, he placed a chair under the rail of the balcony and thre himself over. I would like to think that maybe he was being careless and the ship made a sudden movement and tossed him over but that was not the case.
Ships do roll, a matter of fact this was one of the most tuberlant cruises I have been one. Just so happens, the night the man did jump and take his own life, the ship was as smooth as a babys bottom. In addition, he placed a chair under the rail of the balcony and thre himself over. I would like to think that maybe he was being careless and the ship made a sudden movement and tossed him over but that was not the case.
