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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:16 PM
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blamona, while you suggestions are good ones, I think you have missed snapdragon's important warnings. One: don't necessarily expect the police to have the resources to do much - she said they didn't respond to her, two: she mentioned she's lived in high crime areas & has traveled to crime areas and that's not her point, three: her point is to be aware of your surroundings, and four: don't blame the victim.

Agree with snap on this one - thanks for posting.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:30 PM
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Nanbee, you didn't see her other multiple posts about police not caring. On Tripadvisor her first post was the police did show up and talk to her

So my counterpoints (and this isn't a contest as to who wins, crime sucks, but her posts are complete exaggerations):

1 police did respond, and they caught the criminals
2. I've traveled the world by myself, been through airport bombings, seen crimes, etc I'm keeping crime in TCI in proportion (I've been to 97 countries and counting, how's that for counterpoint?)
3 everyone's point is always be aware of surrounding regardless of where you go (her point is don't count on police and crime is worse in TCI, which are completely not true)
4. I don't blame the victim. I use these kind of posts to remind travelers regardless of where you go you can minimize your chances. It's never the vacationers fault, but we can use what happened to her to remind others to use safes, make sure alarm systems work, and be aware of surroundings wherever you decide to go. While something still could happen, it's always good to remind people where you travel regardless of where it is

I don't miss warnings. I'm extremely well traveled. Police do care, and the criminals were caught.

Crime happens on every island in Caribbean, many crimes much worse than what happened to snapdragon. (doesn't take away from the fact that it did happen)

But saying , "go to caymans, go to Anguilla, etc " instead is actually misguided. Crime happen there too.

And no it doesn't stop me from going to all the places mentioned above

And no it doesn't mean I love a place so much that I'm blinded to hide dangerous stuff from future travelers

That part is down right ridiculous.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 05:03 PM
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FYI


My last word:

The villa owner where I stayed in TCI has been in touch with me in the US and continues to report that the police tell him that NO one has been arrested for the crime in his villa.

Someone who has over 10 000 posts on T A has an over the top need to deny the fact that tourists in TCI have been victims of crime. I have had a very negative experience with the TCI police which points to the fact that they care little about crime against tourists. If you are willing to risk a vacation in a place where you cannot count on the police to do anything for you, then choose TCI because it is, indeed, beautiful.

I have traveled the world and been in destinations that would seem to be a lot riskier that providenciales.
Yet, the place I encountered crime was Provo and the police ere USELESS.

Take heed.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 04:53 AM
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Snapdragon, I appreciate your coming to fodors to tell of your experience and I'm sorry for what happened to you. It seems trite to say no place is really safe but it is, unfortunately, true. I think we want so badly to think that when we're in the Caribbean we are indeed in paradise. But the islands have real world problems just like everywhere. My husband and I have been traveling to the Caribbean since the early 1990's and it does seem that even the traditionally "safe" islands aren't as safe as we once remembered. I think Turks and Anguilla both fall into that category.

As to the police not caring, that also seems to be a common complaint from victims of crime on many islands. I don't quite understand it but it does seem to be a running theme. Perhaps the local police simply don't know how to deal with the increased crime or maybe there's a tiny bit of underlying resentment towards tourists. I'm certainly not blind to local perceptions on many islands. They know they rely on the tourist trade for their livelihoods but that doesn't mean they don't resent it. I'm not saying that is true for TCI but I have felt it on a few islands from some locals although certainly not everyone.

We've been all over the Caribbean and are fortunate we haven't been victims of crime and we have been to some of the "unsafe" islands and lived to tell about it. Interestingly, the only place I ever felt uncomfortable was on an island that is considered very safe.

I'm glad you were willing to share your story. We sometimes need to be reminded.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 05:46 AM
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Snapdragon, I appreciate you sharing your story about your personal experience. Travelers have a right to know. And its shocking to go through these posts and see how the victim is being challenged regarding their post multiple times. If the victims opinion is that Anguilla is safer than Turks (from personal experience) then so be it. Why would that be challenged. Its her opinion. I rent villas regularly in the Caribbean. We pick islands that we consider safe and would not expect the villa to be broken into. Ofcourse crime exists everywhere but I for one would like to know about someone else's experience and I do not consider these posts 'a complete exaggeration'..... To ask the victim whether they locked up their Ipad or left it in plain sight is ridiculous.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 09:57 AM
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To SharonA and Mnag and all other kind and thoughtful readers. I was not going to post any more but must thank you and all open minded readers for you.r caring comments. Just by chance, I spoke to one of my TCI acquaintances who had been at the police station to inquire about my case and others . She said she was told there are no suspects and was given what she called a "runaround". I do not hope for any resolution of the matter and continue to be grateful that we were not beaten the way I have read others have been. In choosing vacation destinations, I think everyone should have an accurate assessment of the places they are considering. A while back I inquired about going to Istanbul and was given helpful advice which allowed me to see all the places I wanted to visit there and I was very appreciative. The Istanbul trip was fabulous! and , again. I was not robbed. : ) I like to pay back to other travelers with the generosity they have shown us.

On to Italy in two weeks!

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 10:31 AM
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Here is another cautionary trip report:

http://www.fodors.com/community/cari...-dangerous.cfm

Thanks snap for your post, it is what Fodor's is all about, real life experiences from real travelers!

Have fun in Italy.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2014, 11:53 AM
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Everyone - please understand that there are many "people" on Fodors and Tripadvisor who are acting like travelers, but in fact they are business development groups who are only trying to direct you to come to their island. I will not mention any names (bla#^#na) and others - you guys know who you are.

So you all know I was on Provo May 17 to 24. And I was a victim of crime. Two hours after sundown on the first night two criminals attempted to break into one of the doors of a villa I had rented on Coconut Road near the marina.

So if anyone on this forum tries to tell you that there is little or no crime or that the criminals have been caught or there is crime everywhere just be sure to know that they are connected to the tourism group on that island.

Provo has crime. And it is out of hand. And yes the police know about it. But I feel that there is little they can do about it. The problem is so bad even they are overwhelmed.

Btw - I expect a nice reaction to my post from these people. Bring it on guys. Your responses will be collected.

Thank you snapdragon. Keep the faith everyone. We will get the word out even when others attempt to gloss over a huge crime issue on Provo.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2014, 02:31 PM
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I'm a business developer trying to bring business to the island? (like the way you wrote it we couldn't figure it out?)

How did you find me out?

Of course there's crime on Provo. There's crime everywhere.

Sorry it happened to you. There are some areas that get hit sometimes. You stayed at an area where it happens.

Did it actually happen or was it an attempt? (you said both)

Did the police show up when they were called? Did you use a "stay" button on the alram system while in the villa?

Can you give us more details to further help future travelers?

Might help get pointers for my business development too.

You gotta tell me how you found out!

PS why are you collecting responses? What does that mean?
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Old Jul 4th, 2014, 07:58 AM
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to IceRicky

I am so sorry to hear that you had such a frightening experience when you were visiting TCI. when something like that happens it certainly ruins the rest of your time on the island. What happened to me was less dramatic but nevertheless unsettling. I am an optimistic, let's have fun kind of person, and I know that I felt so uncomfortable to realize that my husband and I had been targeted and watched before we were robbed in Provo. I wanted to leave the next day and never return even tho, yes, TCI has gorgeous beaches.

also, regardless of what other posters will try to say, I have written to Colin Farquar, individual officers, and they tell me that INDEED, no one has been arrested for our crime. now that I have blanketed the internet telling about my experience, the police have decided to pay some attention to me. You should do the same.

I continue to travel many places and meet like-minded explorers who exchange information about where they have been. I think that because one or two people on this board have tried to deny the truth of my experience in TCI, I have broadcast it even more.

we must all be cautious travelers and I was. No one likes the feeling of being told that you should shut up about your experience. don't be deterred by those who minimize.
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Old Jul 4th, 2014, 09:11 AM
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Oh, and by the way ..... ....

Our burglary took place on Coconut Road near the marina also.

how many times does this have to happen before the police figure out the story? it isn't the size of Chicago. It's just Provo.
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