The hotel called one king west in Toronto
Oct 24th, 2009, 09:19 PM
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There were Jessie Barnes listed in the city directories but I never made note of them.
I checked 377 Glenholme (no 's') and 3 Longfellow on google maps - and 721 Bloor but it's a newer building.
Gee, strange things happen sometimes, I googled Cook Funeral home because I couldn't remember what it's called now (it's called Earle Elliott-Cook-Thompson and at a different address) - a page of someone's research came up of obituaries from the newspapers on certain days in 1963 and 1974 (no Barnes, unfortunately) and one of them was for "Baby ...., daughter of Mr. and Mrs. ...." - that baby was my cousin's infant girl who was stillborn - she was a twin, I don't think I ever even knew the date as I was living out of the province then. And my mother insisted it was a boy that didn't make it. What a strange thing to happen....well, I think so anyway.
So Alan W was the person who became VP of Rotor Tool. He moved a lot, too.
Glenholme is about 10 blocks west of Prospect Cemetery and in the area known as Silverthorn.
I checked 377 Glenholme (no 's') and 3 Longfellow on google maps - and 721 Bloor but it's a newer building.
Gee, strange things happen sometimes, I googled Cook Funeral home because I couldn't remember what it's called now (it's called Earle Elliott-Cook-Thompson and at a different address) - a page of someone's research came up of obituaries from the newspapers on certain days in 1963 and 1974 (no Barnes, unfortunately) and one of them was for "Baby ...., daughter of Mr. and Mrs. ...." - that baby was my cousin's infant girl who was stillborn - she was a twin, I don't think I ever even knew the date as I was living out of the province then. And my mother insisted it was a boy that didn't make it. What a strange thing to happen....well, I think so anyway.
So Alan W was the person who became VP of Rotor Tool. He moved a lot, too.
Glenholme is about 10 blocks west of Prospect Cemetery and in the area known as Silverthorn.
Oct 25th, 2009, 04:02 AM
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I remember you mentioning Jessie Barnes in the city directories,however she was born in 1903 so would of most likely got married and course change her name.If she ever settled long enough and was not moving around like her brothers?
i noticed that you had in fact found
"Alan W., salesman, Rotor Tool Co. of Canada, h. 3 Longfellow Rd, Etobicoke"
on one of your previous search's and that was in 1965 only two years after Jane died ,would Etobicoke be the same district as Weston which is on the death certificate as Alan W address?
I had a look on the goggle maps at Jane and Alan's listed addresses.The street Jane lived looks nice,very different from the home she left in fife Scotland.
So Silverthorn did play its part, and my mum was correct.
As for the bears my sister is still insisting that mum went to school on a sledge and the bears did indeed visit the porch .There is no way i am going to change her mind.
i have to sit down this afternoon and collect all the information up ready for my library visit tomorrow ,it looks like there will be no work done tomorrow either .
How strange in deed that you found your cousins little one on that page after goggling it for something else,if you had been looking for it you would never off found it so easily ,isn't it odd how fate works sometimes.
Well i never did contact Rotor Tools(coopers) before, but i am going to drop them an e-mails now as it looks like it must be the same Alan W anyway i will send it and see if they can tell me anything ,worth a shot.
well i must go Liz
i noticed that you had in fact found
"Alan W., salesman, Rotor Tool Co. of Canada, h. 3 Longfellow Rd, Etobicoke"
on one of your previous search's and that was in 1965 only two years after Jane died ,would Etobicoke be the same district as Weston which is on the death certificate as Alan W address?
I had a look on the goggle maps at Jane and Alan's listed addresses.The street Jane lived looks nice,very different from the home she left in fife Scotland.
So Silverthorn did play its part, and my mum was correct.
As for the bears my sister is still insisting that mum went to school on a sledge and the bears did indeed visit the porch .There is no way i am going to change her mind.
i have to sit down this afternoon and collect all the information up ready for my library visit tomorrow ,it looks like there will be no work done tomorrow either .
How strange in deed that you found your cousins little one on that page after goggling it for something else,if you had been looking for it you would never off found it so easily ,isn't it odd how fate works sometimes.
Well i never did contact Rotor Tools(coopers) before, but i am going to drop them an e-mails now as it looks like it must be the same Alan W anyway i will send it and see if they can tell me anything ,worth a shot.
well i must go Liz
Oct 25th, 2009, 05:16 AM
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I would think that in 1963 Longfellow Road was in Etobicoke, not Weston but it would be the same street. Alan kept moving west.
Maybe they had a summer cottage up north which would explain bears on the porch but not in the city and I suppose someone could have put your mother on a sled and pulled her to school for a special treat in the winter but it would be over sidewalks.
Maybe they had a summer cottage up north which would explain bears on the porch but not in the city and I suppose someone could have put your mother on a sled and pulled her to school for a special treat in the winter but it would be over sidewalks.
Nov 1st, 2009, 12:30 AM
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Hi
Well i still have not heard anything from the veteran affairs,mind you our postal service is quite shocking at the moment ,i have not heard back from Rotor Tools(coopers) ,but it was worth a try ,i have spent three evening's at the library and still have not found Jane arriving into Canada,in fact i found no trace of them so that drew a blank .
I managed to find loads of other information about other parts of the tree which was handy.I discovered that my great x 3 grandparents were originally from Ireland which surprised us all,We all believed that my mum's side were all Scottish ,my dad's family are all from Ireland ,so we have even more Irish blood than we thought.it is amazing what you can find when your not really looking.
Well my other piece of news is that we booked our flights and hotel yesterday.so i will now probably start a new thread with loads of question for our up and coming trip next August/September.
We booked a packaged holiday so we were limited to a few hotels.Booking it direct with the hotel and airline's would of worked out really expensive at the moment as the exchange rate for the British pound is terrible were ever we travel to even Europe ,and I was surprised how expensive the flight are .We are flying with Air Canada ,which we are thrilled with as I really do not like British airways ,as we have never had a good long haul flight with them yet ,either strike action has cause delays or losing our luggage( three separate occasions)So we now try to fly with anyone other than B.A. usually Virgin Atlantic ,but of course they do not fly to Canada ,so we think we got a good deal .And the hotel looks nice and we are hoping it is in a good area all the reports on tripadvisor seem to think it is a good location .What do you think ?Opps it would help if i told you which hotel
"The Sheraton Center Toronto Hotel" we were told it was quite near the Harbour and i had a look at the goggle map of course.
So we can start our count down ,and get some money saved up ,I can hardly wait
liz
Well i still have not heard anything from the veteran affairs,mind you our postal service is quite shocking at the moment ,i have not heard back from Rotor Tools(coopers) ,but it was worth a try ,i have spent three evening's at the library and still have not found Jane arriving into Canada,in fact i found no trace of them so that drew a blank .
I managed to find loads of other information about other parts of the tree which was handy.I discovered that my great x 3 grandparents were originally from Ireland which surprised us all,We all believed that my mum's side were all Scottish ,my dad's family are all from Ireland ,so we have even more Irish blood than we thought.it is amazing what you can find when your not really looking.
Well my other piece of news is that we booked our flights and hotel yesterday.so i will now probably start a new thread with loads of question for our up and coming trip next August/September.
We booked a packaged holiday so we were limited to a few hotels.Booking it direct with the hotel and airline's would of worked out really expensive at the moment as the exchange rate for the British pound is terrible were ever we travel to even Europe ,and I was surprised how expensive the flight are .We are flying with Air Canada ,which we are thrilled with as I really do not like British airways ,as we have never had a good long haul flight with them yet ,either strike action has cause delays or losing our luggage( three separate occasions)So we now try to fly with anyone other than B.A. usually Virgin Atlantic ,but of course they do not fly to Canada ,so we think we got a good deal .And the hotel looks nice and we are hoping it is in a good area all the reports on tripadvisor seem to think it is a good location .What do you think ?Opps it would help if i told you which hotel
"The Sheraton Center Toronto Hotel" we were told it was quite near the Harbour and i had a look at the goggle map of course.
So we can start our count down ,and get some money saved up ,I can hardly wait
liz
Nov 1st, 2009, 04:47 PM
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Well, isn't that exciting for you - how long will you stay?
The Sheraton Centre near the harbour? Not really but not too far - if they mean you are on the lakefront which "near the harbour" means to me, the answer is no. It's on Queen Street across from City Hall and walkable to lots of places including One King West and has good transit links so you can see some of the family-related addresses you've been looking up and Prospect Cemetery.
You can google map it if you haven't already...it's 123 Queen Street West, City Hall is 100 Queen.
The Sheraton Centre near the harbour? Not really but not too far - if they mean you are on the lakefront which "near the harbour" means to me, the answer is no. It's on Queen Street across from City Hall and walkable to lots of places including One King West and has good transit links so you can see some of the family-related addresses you've been looking up and Prospect Cemetery.
You can google map it if you haven't already...it's 123 Queen Street West, City Hall is 100 Queen.
Nov 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM
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We will be in Toronto for ten days arriving on the 30th August,just my husband and myself now.
As my sister has only just be discharged from hospital after receiving treatment for blood clots four on her lungs and one in her leg ,the hospital have no idea how long they have been there ,so she will not be travelling long haul for some time ,thank goodness we never came in September as we were planning.
She is now on the mend,but flying will be a no no for a while.She has always suffered with high blood pressure and is a smoker so i am not sure if that has a connection.She is now on medication to thin the blood and very worried,as she is very bruised from the injections they have been given her and she now has to give her self the injection at home for the next week (she is much braver than i am).
Well i had a look at The Sheraton on the goggle map and it seems quite central and within walking distant to King West and the Harbour,I love The old City hall across the street and if it has good transit links that will be prefect for us. The holiday company we booked with gave us a choice of the Fairmont Royal York ,The Novotel,the Sheraton or the Day Inn,We chose the Sheraton as the deal was great only a little more than Novotel and the Day inn and a whole lot cheaper than The Fairmont .
We are now going to start a list of must do's ,Niagara is one ,and we are undecided if we should drive and stay over night or just go for the day and drive back .Or in deed wether to go on the bus or train .What are your thoughts?we are not sure if it is worth hiring a car as most of the things we wish to do are in or around Toronto except the Falls.
I also had a look at the weekly pass for the public transport http://www3.ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/...eekly_pass.jsp
They look like a good idea ,so i will give that some thought ,i will have to check the maps out and check the pass covers the area's i wish to visit.
well must fly the dog is waiting for her walk ,bye for now Liz
As my sister has only just be discharged from hospital after receiving treatment for blood clots four on her lungs and one in her leg ,the hospital have no idea how long they have been there ,so she will not be travelling long haul for some time ,thank goodness we never came in September as we were planning.
She is now on the mend,but flying will be a no no for a while.She has always suffered with high blood pressure and is a smoker so i am not sure if that has a connection.She is now on medication to thin the blood and very worried,as she is very bruised from the injections they have been given her and she now has to give her self the injection at home for the next week (she is much braver than i am).
Well i had a look at The Sheraton on the goggle map and it seems quite central and within walking distant to King West and the Harbour,I love The old City hall across the street and if it has good transit links that will be prefect for us. The holiday company we booked with gave us a choice of the Fairmont Royal York ,The Novotel,the Sheraton or the Day Inn,We chose the Sheraton as the deal was great only a little more than Novotel and the Day inn and a whole lot cheaper than The Fairmont .
We are now going to start a list of must do's ,Niagara is one ,and we are undecided if we should drive and stay over night or just go for the day and drive back .Or in deed wether to go on the bus or train .What are your thoughts?we are not sure if it is worth hiring a car as most of the things we wish to do are in or around Toronto except the Falls.
I also had a look at the weekly pass for the public transport http://www3.ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/...eekly_pass.jsp
They look like a good idea ,so i will give that some thought ,i will have to check the maps out and check the pass covers the area's i wish to visit.
well must fly the dog is waiting for her walk ,bye for now Liz
Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:32 AM
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Sorry to hear about your sister - it IS a good thing she didn't fly this year.
My cousin, when visiting from Lincolnshire, took a bus tour to the Falls which included, I think, a meal and time to stay and see the lights on the Falls - she described the day as "magical". There are several companies that will take you - if you're tired after your day wandering around the Falls, hopefully in the sun, you can sleep on the bus - your hotel concierge will have info on the various tours available.
Yes, a weekly transit pass is a good idea - you can only walk so far - you likely want to see some of the former family homes and Prospect Cemetery and only Granby Street is downtown - that link doesn't say how much it costs but I think it's around $30 although rumour has it prices will increase soon.
Hopefully, by then, you'll have discovered some LIVING family you can visit, not just grave sites.
C
My cousin, when visiting from Lincolnshire, took a bus tour to the Falls which included, I think, a meal and time to stay and see the lights on the Falls - she described the day as "magical". There are several companies that will take you - if you're tired after your day wandering around the Falls, hopefully in the sun, you can sleep on the bus - your hotel concierge will have info on the various tours available.
Yes, a weekly transit pass is a good idea - you can only walk so far - you likely want to see some of the former family homes and Prospect Cemetery and only Granby Street is downtown - that link doesn't say how much it costs but I think it's around $30 although rumour has it prices will increase soon.
Hopefully, by then, you'll have discovered some LIVING family you can visit, not just grave sites.
C
Nov 3rd, 2009, 11:30 PM
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The bus tour sounds like a good idea,i have heard that the falls are stunning when they are all lit up in the evening,which is the only reason we considered staying over night.
The weekly travel pass it seems is $32.25 at the moment .
http://www3.ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/Prices/index.jsp
which will be really handy for visiting Prospect and former homes,and who knows if i get lucky i may still find some living family which would be great.I still have ten months to work on that.
bye for now Liz
The weekly travel pass it seems is $32.25 at the moment .
http://www3.ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/Prices/index.jsp
which will be really handy for visiting Prospect and former homes,and who knows if i get lucky i may still find some living family which would be great.I still have ten months to work on that.
bye for now Liz
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Wow ! I sat down to get a bit of restaurant info, and here
I am an hour later. This is like reading a good book !!
You all have done some very detailed work obtaining info.
I hope the trip next summer turns out to be as rewarding as
possible for you Liz. I will tell you there is Jack Barnes
and his son Jack Barnes living in my hometown of Warren,Penna.
Ages would be approx 65 and the son maybe 35.
I am an hour later. This is like reading a good book !!
You all have done some very detailed work obtaining info.
I hope the trip next summer turns out to be as rewarding as
possible for you Liz. I will tell you there is Jack Barnes
and his son Jack Barnes living in my hometown of Warren,Penna.
Ages would be approx 65 and the son maybe 35.
Nov 22nd, 2009, 12:47 PM
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Hi Sherri - you never know - maybe one of them is the Jack Barnes Liz is looking for.
Re Pennsylvania - I'm hoping to find what became of John George Leonard, b. about 1885 in Pennsylvania...he's my mystery at the moment.
So you want restaurant info - here in TO? Can we help?
Re Pennsylvania - I'm hoping to find what became of John George Leonard, b. about 1885 in Pennsylvania...he's my mystery at the moment.
So you want restaurant info - here in TO? Can we help?
Nov 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM
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Any idea what part of PA ?
Have gone to Pink Pearl on Avenue Rd for years until they
recently closed a year or so ago. Looking for something
comparable food / atmosphere without going to the
much talked about restaurant at Metropolitan or Spadina where
there are far too many choices for me to make a decision.
We tried Pearl-Harbourfront a week or so ago and it was good, just not 'Pink Pearl' as we have enjoyed for so long.
Sherri
Have gone to Pink Pearl on Avenue Rd for years until they
recently closed a year or so ago. Looking for something
comparable food / atmosphere without going to the
much talked about restaurant at Metropolitan or Spadina where
there are far too many choices for me to make a decision.
We tried Pearl-Harbourfront a week or so ago and it was good, just not 'Pink Pearl' as we have enjoyed for so long.
Sherri
Nov 27th, 2009, 04:56 AM
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Hi Liz - probably just a coincidence but this is in the paper today (Nov 27):
"BARNES, Brian - Brian Barnes, formerly of Toronto, passed away suddenly in Sarnia Hospital on November 24, 2009 at 56 years of age. Dear father to Teresa Soncin-Chambers (Greg) and Andrea Soncin-Leo (Patrick). Loving grandfather to Jackson and Audrey Chambers. Lifelong friend of Margaret Soncin. Survived by mother Verna, sister Janet Morris, brother John, godson Richard Duplessis, nieces and nephews. Predeceased by father Jack, sister Barbara Duplessis and brother Gary. Despite a long struggle which took his health and eventually his life, he remained a kind and gentle soul, happy to be around the people he cared about. May he finally rest in peace. Funeral at Steadman Bros. Funeral Home in Corunna, Ontario November 28 at 1 p.m."
519-862-2424 is the phone number for Steadman Bros.
"BARNES, Brian - Brian Barnes, formerly of Toronto, passed away suddenly in Sarnia Hospital on November 24, 2009 at 56 years of age. Dear father to Teresa Soncin-Chambers (Greg) and Andrea Soncin-Leo (Patrick). Loving grandfather to Jackson and Audrey Chambers. Lifelong friend of Margaret Soncin. Survived by mother Verna, sister Janet Morris, brother John, godson Richard Duplessis, nieces and nephews. Predeceased by father Jack, sister Barbara Duplessis and brother Gary. Despite a long struggle which took his health and eventually his life, he remained a kind and gentle soul, happy to be around the people he cared about. May he finally rest in peace. Funeral at Steadman Bros. Funeral Home in Corunna, Ontario November 28 at 1 p.m."
519-862-2424 is the phone number for Steadman Bros.
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Hello Morningglory47
I've just googled my father's name and came up with your Fodor's forum. Am hoping I can contact you about my father's family. He was Alexander Crombie Barnes (Alex) and he married Emma Ruth Demptster in Toronto. My name is Allan Wilson Barnes and I was born in Toronto in 1937. My father seperated from my mother when I was very young and I barely remember him but I recall my mother saying she worked at The Honey Dew in Toronto. They married in 1937. I've done a little delving some time ago and have been to Leslie in Fife where my father was born. His father was Alexander Crombie Barnes also and he married Jane Sim, my grandmother. I have not been contact with my father and had no idea when he moved to Canada with his family. I'll have to go carefully through all of your entries in this forum and try to make sense of it all. I'm extremely grateful for the information... there's a wealth of it here ...
I'm living in New Zealand (moved here in 1971) It would be lovely to get in touch with you via email or skype or some such (facebook?)... kind regards
Allan Wilson Barnes
I've just googled my father's name and came up with your Fodor's forum. Am hoping I can contact you about my father's family. He was Alexander Crombie Barnes (Alex) and he married Emma Ruth Demptster in Toronto. My name is Allan Wilson Barnes and I was born in Toronto in 1937. My father seperated from my mother when I was very young and I barely remember him but I recall my mother saying she worked at The Honey Dew in Toronto. They married in 1937. I've done a little delving some time ago and have been to Leslie in Fife where my father was born. His father was Alexander Crombie Barnes also and he married Jane Sim, my grandmother. I have not been contact with my father and had no idea when he moved to Canada with his family. I'll have to go carefully through all of your entries in this forum and try to make sense of it all. I'm extremely grateful for the information... there's a wealth of it here ...
I'm living in New Zealand (moved here in 1971) It would be lovely to get in touch with you via email or skype or some such (facebook?)... kind regards
Allan Wilson Barnes
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:32 PM
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Hi Allan - this is a surprise. Liz and her husband were here last August and we spent a few hours visiting the cemetery looking for her Barnes' connections. I e-mailed her at Christmas but didn't have a reply.
I'll have to read through here again to remember it all.
Carolyn
I'll have to read through here again to remember it all.
Carolyn
Feb 18th, 2011, 10:07 AM
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Hi Carolyn
Firstly Carolyn I hope you received my e-mail and thanks for letting me know about this post.I have not checked in on the forum for a while.
And Hi, Allan
What a surprise I received an e-mail from Carolyn this morning and I finally got to read the post this afternoon when I came home from work ,you must of been so surprised when you came across this thread,and all the information it contains Carolyn is amazing we really enjoyed meeting up with her in Toronto and she was very kind and took us to Prospect cemetery looking for Agnes grave as well as your grandparents Alexander and Jane grave.We can not thank her enough.Allan I would love to hear from you .
My e-mail address is
[email protected]
hope to hear from you
Liz
Firstly Carolyn I hope you received my e-mail and thanks for letting me know about this post.I have not checked in on the forum for a while.
And Hi, Allan
What a surprise I received an e-mail from Carolyn this morning and I finally got to read the post this afternoon when I came home from work ,you must of been so surprised when you came across this thread,and all the information it contains Carolyn is amazing we really enjoyed meeting up with her in Toronto and she was very kind and took us to Prospect cemetery looking for Agnes grave as well as your grandparents Alexander and Jane grave.We can not thank her enough.Allan I would love to hear from you .
My e-mail address is
[email protected]
hope to hear from you
Liz
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Hello again from Dunedin, NZ
Carolyn, I have just sent an email to Liz... and am eagerly awaiting her reply... it's great that there's this opportunity to establish a connection with relatives... however distant (haven't worked it all out yet!)
kind regards
Allan
Carolyn, I have just sent an email to Liz... and am eagerly awaiting her reply... it's great that there's this opportunity to establish a connection with relatives... however distant (haven't worked it all out yet!)
kind regards
Allan
