Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Asia
Reload this Page >

Please Help with Japan Itinerary in Oct.

Search

Please Help with Japan Itinerary in Oct.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 8th, 2010 | 09:45 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Please Help with Japan Itinerary in Oct.

Day 1 - arrive Narita at 2.30pm, activate JR pass, train to Osaka, sleep Osaka
2- visit Nara or Kobe, sleep Osaka
3- visit and sleep Osaka
4- train to Hiroshima visit Okayama/Kurashiki on route, sleep Hiroshima
5- visit Miyajima island, sleep Hiroshima
6- visit Fukuoka or Hiroshima, sleep Hiroshima
7- train to Tokyo, visit Hokone on route, sleep TKO (JR pass's last day)
8- visit Tko, sleep TKO
9- visit Yokohama, sleep TKO
10- visit Nikko, sleep TKO
11- Visit TKO, sleep TKO

Would our 7day JR pass cover all our stops, is this too ambitious, your comment is appreciated.
samuell is offline  
Old Jul 8th, 2010 | 12:16 PM
  #2  
50 Countries Visited
20 Anniversary
1m Airline Miles
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,412
Likes: 0
With this itinerary it would be easier if you were to fly into KIX and out of NRT. Is that an option for you?

Aloha!
hawaiiantraveler is offline  
Old Jul 8th, 2010 | 03:23 PM
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Hi Peter,

yes, you are right, no, we couldn't.
thankyou.

Sam.
samuell is offline  
Old Jul 8th, 2010 | 05:39 PM
  #4  
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Day 6-7 If you travel to Tokyo from Hiroshima, that's a good four to five hour trip. You may not have time to visit Hakone fo any good period. My suggestion would be to see if you can get a berth on either the Sunrise Seto or Sunrise Izumo from Okayama to Tokyo and travel overnight. This needs to be booked ahead of time, and at popular times may be unavailable.
Sydney2K is offline  
Old Jul 8th, 2010 | 10:14 PM
  #5  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
good call and thankyou, could we not take the night train from Hiroshima?
samuell is offline  
Old Jul 9th, 2010 | 04:50 PM
  #6  
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
Itinerary seems arranged to get the most mileage out of the JR pass, so you're on the move a lot. Odd that you skip Kyoto tho' you have 3 nights in Osaka.
WillJame is offline  
Old Jul 9th, 2010 | 05:48 PM
  #7  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,521
Likes: 0
No, samuell, you can't catch the sleeper trains that Sydney2K mentions in Hiroshima because they originate either south (Seto) or north (Izumo) of Okayama. The first stop where they intersect your route back from Hiroshima is at Okayama. Sleeper trains are gradually being discontinued throughout the rail system in Japan as more and more destinations are served by shinkansen.

Note that your JR pass will not pay for either a couchette or compartment on any sleeper trains---the base fare is covered, but you have to pay a supplement (which is more than I'd typically pay for a hotel room). Both of the trains that run between Okayama and Tokyo do offer nobinobi seats, though, and there's no supplement for them. Although they're called seats they're actually carpeted platforms on which you can lie down for a snooze, so a reasonable compromise.
Therese is offline  
Old Jul 9th, 2010 | 05:51 PM
  #8  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,521
Likes: 0
Whoops, forgot to include this link that will give you loads of info about the night trains:

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2356.html
Therese is offline  
Old Jul 9th, 2010 | 09:08 PM
  #9  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
WillJame, this is a one week suggested itinerary from Japan by rail which includes Kyoto, we were in Kyoto two years ago, thankyou for your comment.

Therese, thankyou for your explanation and the link, we may just ride back to Tokyo and see Hokone as a day trip from there.
samuell is offline  
Old Jul 10th, 2010 | 05:51 AM
  #10  
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
I see, Samuell, that explains some of what you're doing. Missing Kyoto was a puzzle to me, especially when Osaka and Kobe were chosen as destinations instead. I understand too why you are spending 3 nights in Osaka, and then 3 nights in Hiroshima--not the most delightful places to choose to be in Japan. But they do make good bases for day trips. I think you are wise not to be changing your hotel daily during your trip.
WillJame is offline  
Old Jul 10th, 2010 | 10:32 AM
  #11  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
WillJame, that is exactly, I am glad you agreed.
Thankyou.
samuell is offline  
Old Jul 12th, 2010 | 08:51 PM
  #12  
50 Countries Visited
20 Anniversary
1m Airline Miles
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,412
Likes: 0
I was on Kauai this weekend so must have missed this.

Maybe day 6 visit Fukuoka or where ever you want and sleep in or nearer Hakone. Then do the loop in the morning and off to Yokohama later that day with a little touring and overnight there. Visit more of Yokohama in morning then off to Nikko for an overnight with some sights when you get there. More of Nikko the next day then off to Tokyo in the late afternoon for your last two nights. Consider one of the passes for transport to, from and around Nikko
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2358_002.html

It <b>is</b> an ambitious itinerary but you have been there already and know how its done so should be a piece of cake for you. October weather should still be warm days with the nights just starting to get cooler, no koyo yet unless maybe in some of the areas around Nikko.....I am envious, enjoy!

Aloha!
hawaiiantraveler is offline  
Old Jul 13th, 2010 | 02:48 PM
  #13  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Hi HT,

I am sure you had a nice time in Kauai, lovely place, we haven't been back for a number of years.

You comment is timely, just about to book our hotel, excellent suggestion to shoot over Yokohama after Hakone, take the late train to Nikko, overnight and see Nikko the next day, then spend the rest of time in Toyko, no back tracking, just Brilliant, thankyou very much.
samuell is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
efarr99
Asia
14
Sep 23rd, 2018 04:23 AM
karana12
Asia
25
Aug 7th, 2017 01:03 PM
Begue70
Asia
4
Nov 12th, 2016 03:58 PM
twyetts
Asia
2
Aug 12th, 2015 08:26 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement -