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#61
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Hi Travlaw,
Thanks for the advise. Sounds like hiring guides as we want/need them is the way to go. I agree with you, we really don't want our trip too scheduled which is why we didn't want to go with a 'tour'.
I think I read you went to Mumbai, did you go to Kolkata? Just wondering if you had a preference of one over the other?
Look forward to 'chatting' again.
Thanks for the advise. Sounds like hiring guides as we want/need them is the way to go. I agree with you, we really don't want our trip too scheduled which is why we didn't want to go with a 'tour'.
I think I read you went to Mumbai, did you go to Kolkata? Just wondering if you had a preference of one over the other?
Look forward to 'chatting' again.
#62
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We have not been to Kolkata, but intend to get there one of these days. We like Mumbai a lot, and have friends there. The person who might help you best with this question is dogster -- he has posted reports from both cities.
Regarding entrance fees and incidental costs, here is some info I was able to track down from our trip by city -- hope it is helpful!
Costs are per person unless noted. Sometimes the video camera fee is more than the still camera fee, sometimes the fee includes both.
Delhi: Car with driver arranged by B&B 2000 Rs per day (for 3 persons); Car from airport 850 Rs (3 persons); Car to airport 650 Rs (3 persons); Lunches – about 350 Rs. Dinner – went to more expensive places that ran us over $100 US (total for 3 persons); Red Fort 25 Rs (think we also paid 25 Rs for camera fee); Jama Masjid 200 Rs; Qutb Minar US $5; Humayan’s Tomb US $5; Lotus Temple free; Crafts museum free; India gate free; Henna application 50 Rs.
Kathmandu: Visa fee US $25; Tourism Service Fee 565 NRs; Car pick up by hotel free; Car and driver arranged by hotel about US $100 per day (don’t have receipt for this, so this is from memory, it was for 3 persons in a sedan); Lunches generally 2-300 NRs; Dinners generally about US $25; Kathmandu tourist fee 200 NRs; Changu Narayan 100 NRs; Bhaktapur 750 NRs; Patan 200 NRs; Bouhanath 100 NRs; Swayambhu 100 NRs; Pashupatinath 250 NRs.
Agra: Lunches about 100 Rs; Dinners about US $20; Taj ticket (includes Agra Fort, Baby Taj, Sikandra and Fatehpur Sikri if you visit them all the same day you buy the ticket) 500 Rs (non-Indian); camera fee Taj 25Rs; camera fee Baby Taj 25 Rs; Fatehpur sikri (we visited on a different day) US $5; Fatehpur Sikri camera fee 25Rs; tuk-tuk fee in Fatehpur – can’t remember offhand, but ask the driver and he will tell you the most you should pay – probably a few hundred Rs. We had our car and driver in Agra (and all of the cities below except Mumbai and Varanasi), so we didn’t pay anything for local transport.
Jaipur: Lunches about 100-200 Rs; dinners about US $15; Amber Fort 50 Rs; Elephants to fort 1140 Rs (two elephants carrying 3 people); City Palace 180 Rs (? – not on receipt); camera fee City Palace 200 Rs; Jantar Mantar 100 Rs; Hawa Mahal (did not enter, but the cost is just a few Rs); internet fees at the hotel were 20 Rs for 20 minutes; Galta Kund100 Rs.
Bikaner; lunches about 100 Rs; dinners about US $20; Camel Research Center 10 Rs; camera fee 20 Rs; Rat temple – I think there is normally a fee but there was no one there to collect it so we just walked in. I think we paid the guide about 500 Rs. Also paid a few Rs for the guy to watch our shoes.
Jaisalmer: Lunches about 100-150 Rs; Dinners about US $15 (mostly at the hotel); Camel safari (including dinner and entertainment) – I think we paid about 2000 Rs (for 3 people); Bada Bagh Cenotaphs 50 Rs; Bada Bagh camera fee 20 Rs; drinks at hotel 650 Rs for 3; beer 350 Rs for 2; Jaisalmer Fort 150 Rs.
Jodhpur: Lunches about 100-200 Rs; Dinners about $10 US (several at the hotel); Mehrangarh Fort 200 Rs (includes audio tour which is quite good); camera fee fort 200 Rs; Jaswant Thada 30 Rs; Jaswant Thada camera fee 50 Rs; Umaid Bhawan Palace Museum 50 Rs.
Udaiur: Rankapur 150 Rs; camera fees 340 Rs (for 2 video and one still); auto rickshaws 20 Rs; Lunches about 200 Rs; Dinners about US $20 (several at Jagat Niwas, which was pretty good); Internet 10 Rs for 15 minutes; City Palace complex 25Rs; City Palace Museum 30 Rs; Boat Ride Lake Pichola 300 Rs (there may be a combined ticket for the city palace complex, museum and boat fee, but these were the fees listed on the tickets); camera fee 200 Rs; Bagore Ki Haveli cultural show 60 Rs.
Mumbai: Reality Tours and Travel (slum visit and Mumbai City tour including lunch) 2000 Rs; Lunches 4-500 Rs; Dinners US $15-20; Elephanta Island 300 Rs (boat and entry fee?—don’t have receipt), 5 Rs tourist tax, 5 Rs Train ride, camera fee elephanta caves 25 Rs. Didn’t save receipts for the Art Museum but it was only a few Rs.
Varansi; Auto Rickshaws 50 Rs; Lunches and Dinners at the hotel – 2-300 Rs (for 3); Lunch at Kesari (I would avoid this place because of the lack of cleanliness) 350 Rs (for 3); boat ride on the Ganges about 50 Rs an hour. Sarnath was a few hundred Rs for 3 – again, don’t have the receipt.
Regarding entrance fees and incidental costs, here is some info I was able to track down from our trip by city -- hope it is helpful!
Costs are per person unless noted. Sometimes the video camera fee is more than the still camera fee, sometimes the fee includes both.
Delhi: Car with driver arranged by B&B 2000 Rs per day (for 3 persons); Car from airport 850 Rs (3 persons); Car to airport 650 Rs (3 persons); Lunches – about 350 Rs. Dinner – went to more expensive places that ran us over $100 US (total for 3 persons); Red Fort 25 Rs (think we also paid 25 Rs for camera fee); Jama Masjid 200 Rs; Qutb Minar US $5; Humayan’s Tomb US $5; Lotus Temple free; Crafts museum free; India gate free; Henna application 50 Rs.
Kathmandu: Visa fee US $25; Tourism Service Fee 565 NRs; Car pick up by hotel free; Car and driver arranged by hotel about US $100 per day (don’t have receipt for this, so this is from memory, it was for 3 persons in a sedan); Lunches generally 2-300 NRs; Dinners generally about US $25; Kathmandu tourist fee 200 NRs; Changu Narayan 100 NRs; Bhaktapur 750 NRs; Patan 200 NRs; Bouhanath 100 NRs; Swayambhu 100 NRs; Pashupatinath 250 NRs.
Agra: Lunches about 100 Rs; Dinners about US $20; Taj ticket (includes Agra Fort, Baby Taj, Sikandra and Fatehpur Sikri if you visit them all the same day you buy the ticket) 500 Rs (non-Indian); camera fee Taj 25Rs; camera fee Baby Taj 25 Rs; Fatehpur sikri (we visited on a different day) US $5; Fatehpur Sikri camera fee 25Rs; tuk-tuk fee in Fatehpur – can’t remember offhand, but ask the driver and he will tell you the most you should pay – probably a few hundred Rs. We had our car and driver in Agra (and all of the cities below except Mumbai and Varanasi), so we didn’t pay anything for local transport.
Jaipur: Lunches about 100-200 Rs; dinners about US $15; Amber Fort 50 Rs; Elephants to fort 1140 Rs (two elephants carrying 3 people); City Palace 180 Rs (? – not on receipt); camera fee City Palace 200 Rs; Jantar Mantar 100 Rs; Hawa Mahal (did not enter, but the cost is just a few Rs); internet fees at the hotel were 20 Rs for 20 minutes; Galta Kund100 Rs.
Bikaner; lunches about 100 Rs; dinners about US $20; Camel Research Center 10 Rs; camera fee 20 Rs; Rat temple – I think there is normally a fee but there was no one there to collect it so we just walked in. I think we paid the guide about 500 Rs. Also paid a few Rs for the guy to watch our shoes.
Jaisalmer: Lunches about 100-150 Rs; Dinners about US $15 (mostly at the hotel); Camel safari (including dinner and entertainment) – I think we paid about 2000 Rs (for 3 people); Bada Bagh Cenotaphs 50 Rs; Bada Bagh camera fee 20 Rs; drinks at hotel 650 Rs for 3; beer 350 Rs for 2; Jaisalmer Fort 150 Rs.
Jodhpur: Lunches about 100-200 Rs; Dinners about $10 US (several at the hotel); Mehrangarh Fort 200 Rs (includes audio tour which is quite good); camera fee fort 200 Rs; Jaswant Thada 30 Rs; Jaswant Thada camera fee 50 Rs; Umaid Bhawan Palace Museum 50 Rs.
Udaiur: Rankapur 150 Rs; camera fees 340 Rs (for 2 video and one still); auto rickshaws 20 Rs; Lunches about 200 Rs; Dinners about US $20 (several at Jagat Niwas, which was pretty good); Internet 10 Rs for 15 minutes; City Palace complex 25Rs; City Palace Museum 30 Rs; Boat Ride Lake Pichola 300 Rs (there may be a combined ticket for the city palace complex, museum and boat fee, but these were the fees listed on the tickets); camera fee 200 Rs; Bagore Ki Haveli cultural show 60 Rs.
Mumbai: Reality Tours and Travel (slum visit and Mumbai City tour including lunch) 2000 Rs; Lunches 4-500 Rs; Dinners US $15-20; Elephanta Island 300 Rs (boat and entry fee?—don’t have receipt), 5 Rs tourist tax, 5 Rs Train ride, camera fee elephanta caves 25 Rs. Didn’t save receipts for the Art Museum but it was only a few Rs.
Varansi; Auto Rickshaws 50 Rs; Lunches and Dinners at the hotel – 2-300 Rs (for 3); Lunch at Kesari (I would avoid this place because of the lack of cleanliness) 350 Rs (for 3); boat ride on the Ganges about 50 Rs an hour. Sarnath was a few hundred Rs for 3 – again, don’t have the receipt.
#63
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Thanks for this comprehensive report, travelaw. You always come through with thorough, practical info. We're leaving mid-November. We've booked Ramesh Meena as our driver. What is the protocol for making payment? Is it done at the end of each day, week, what? Thanks, and I hope all is going well with you.
I'm working out daily to strengthen my elephant riding stance . . .
I'm working out daily to strengthen my elephant riding stance . . .
#64
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When we used Ramesh Meena he was working for another company, so I don't know how he is handling it now that he is on his own. On our trip, we paid for the car and driver when we got to Jaipur -- which is where the company office was. That said, I guess it depends on how long you will be using the driver -- weekly would be okay -- but certainly I wouldn't do it daily. I think it is fine to wait till the end or near the end of the trip -- my experience is that is okay with most drivers/companies. If you want to tip, I would definitely do that at the very end. We put something in a sealed envelope and gave it to the driver when we were departing his services, but that of course is up to you.
#65
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By the way pearl, you will do fine on the elephant -- really very little stress at all -- you just sit in the basket and enjoy. Now camels . . .
Thanks for your kind comments. I am off for my year-long assignment in a couple of weeks. Keep me in your thoughts and prayers!
Thanks for your kind comments. I am off for my year-long assignment in a couple of weeks. Keep me in your thoughts and prayers!
#66
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Wow, Travlaw....that's great information. Thanks for taking the time to look all this up in your records. That will really help me put my budget together.
Pearl, we got a quote from Ramesh. He said we make a small deposit ahead (when we book) and pay the balance at the end. He didn't say, but I would imagine he would take cash rather than credit card although the website looks like they take CC.
Thanks again Travlaw and have a wonderful trip Pearl. Look forward to hearing about it when you return.
Pearl, we got a quote from Ramesh. He said we make a small deposit ahead (when we book) and pay the balance at the end. He didn't say, but I would imagine he would take cash rather than credit card although the website looks like they take CC.
Thanks again Travlaw and have a wonderful trip Pearl. Look forward to hearing about it when you return.
#67
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We made contact with Ramesh originally when he was in transition to his own business. We wired $USD100 to his bank as a security.
He e-mailed a resume and an informational booklet. We've refined our itinerary a bit more and will reconnect again in the next few days.
I think it's a good idea to pay in cash where possible and we try to do so.
I doubt the prayers of this old heathen would do much good, but I will keep you in my thoughts. I recall that you're going on a tough assignment, but one that might be quite interesting.
He e-mailed a resume and an informational booklet. We've refined our itinerary a bit more and will reconnect again in the next few days.
I think it's a good idea to pay in cash where possible and we try to do so.
I doubt the prayers of this old heathen would do much good, but I will keep you in my thoughts. I recall that you're going on a tough assignment, but one that might be quite interesting.
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