First Class Attire

Jul 20th, 2005, 04:23 PM
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nytraveler -- I am sure that when I am next in the situation of having to evacuate via the slide, the main thing on my mind is going to be "Wow, I should have worn long pants!"
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Jul 21st, 2005, 05:22 AM
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Sorry, but I have never heard of a "dress code" for American Airlines!!And I'm not quite sure what you mean "for an upgrade".Do you mean if you are hoping there will be an extra First Class seat that's empty, and the GA will pick you to occupy it?? NOT...Virtually every flight on AA goes out FULL in FC, leaving elites who have to sit in the back....Since I have been buying the reduced First Class fares mostly,I dont have to worry about whether or not I'll be upgraded...And I have worn a lot of collarless shirts, and cargo shorts and sandals...Not once has anyone said anything to me.What have I missed??
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Jul 21st, 2005, 11:17 AM
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Are elite upgrades processed automatically in which case no one would even see you? I've only heard of dress codes being applied to non-revs, not paying passengers.
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Jul 21st, 2005, 05:08 PM
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When the skin is burned off the back of your legs - and you're landing barefoot on stones and broken glass - believe me you will be rueing the shorts and flip flops.

And I know this happens rarely - but so do car accidents - and do you drive around without seat belts?
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:35 AM
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Hi nytraveler. You seem to have a lot of experience with this slide routine. Could you tell us which airline you usually fly?

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Jul 22nd, 2005, 12:15 PM
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I promise never to wear shorts in case I have to do the slide. I'm also going to sleep wearing shoes in case there's an earthquake during the night and I have to run out into the street. But how will I wash my hair while I'm wearing my bike helmet in the shower in case I slip and fall?

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Jul 23rd, 2005, 07:24 AM
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Wow, I've only flown first class once and that was a serendipidous upgrade, but I never considered there might be a dress code.

No offense, but many respondants sound very snobby! There's a line between appropriate attire and inappropriate public attire, in general, but PUH-LEASE..... what are we? In 18th century England with different classes of PEOPLE? For heaven's sake, it would be discriminatory to look down your nose and deny a passenger an upgrade because he's wearing shorts.

Go back to your country clubs.
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Jul 23rd, 2005, 12:45 PM
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This thread reminded me of a time about 15 years ago when my husband won a R/T for two to London on British Airways. We were supposed to fly over on the 747 but we were offered the opportunity to go on the Concorde if we were willing to leave a day later than planned (long story). Needless to say, we jumped at the opportunity!

We showed up at the airport dressed nicely, I thought. I was wearing belted, pressed dark jeans with a tucked-in blouse, not sloppy at all. My husband was wearing khakis and a polo shirt. The agent said that I couldn't board wearing jeans -- not up to the "dress code", he said. So I had to retrieve my luggage, find a dress, pantyhose and pumps, and go change in the ladies room! I was furious, especially when we watched a few people board the plane in jogging suits.
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Jul 23rd, 2005, 12:58 PM
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Ever heard of reverse snobbery?
 
Jul 23rd, 2005, 01:08 PM
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Woops, not directed at Vigo.

lynnejoel, you've got blinders on if you don't think we have different classes and those classes aren't treated differently. "Discrimination" isn't automatically a negative, and sometimes it's considered not only acceptable but even a virtue ("cats of disciminating tastes"... ;-) .. .), though not necessarily in air travel, which is increasingly a cattle-call no matter what class you travel. But how you dress can affect how you're treated -- you may think that's "snobby," and assuming someone's wealthy and upperclass just becase they make that observation is silly. So is expecting people to dress down to avoid being thought "snobby" (and starting a criticism with "no offense" doesn't make it charming).
 
Jul 25th, 2005, 08:55 PM
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hi cassandra,

i'm not sure i know what you mean by reverse snobbery. and i had no intent at sounding charming. no interest in that.

anyone who thinks that a sharp suit made with expensive fabrics makes you somehow "better" or more suited to "first class" accommodations than the person next to you wearing a jogging suit or shorts is mistaken. keep in mind that every privilege in first class is PURCHASED.

consider what dr. martin luther king jr. said of his dream and being judged by content of character, not what color skin you wear, or in this case, cloth.

i'm no fool and certainly am not blind to think that our society doesn't harbor class discrimination .... but it doesn't mean that we can't fight it!
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Jul 26th, 2005, 05:47 AM
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Reverse snobbery involves contempt for anything not associated with having no money, no sophistication, no education. It equates things like, oh say, dressing well to being "snobby," and believing that "snobby" is a terrible thing to say about someone else. God forbid.

Your "go back to your country clubs" was a classic line, involving the assumption that a) anyone who might recommend dressing nicely belongs to a country club and b) that being accused of belonging to one is a devastating condemnation of depravity.

I'm personally neither a fan of country clubs nor of the pious wealthy who think lack of money is a sign of poor character. And as I originally said, I've seen everything in 1st class and think comfort is worth thinking about. But that doesn't mean I admire people who think it cool and important to be proud of looking grundgy (and who consider anyone preferring not to be around people dressed that way a loser "snob"). Nor do I admire, especially, those who condemn recommendations to adapt to a situation as if that were a sure sign of oppression. Snobby is as snobby does, and it goes both ways.

Fighting discrimination doesn't begin with bare feet and torn levis in the first class part of airplanes -- though it might begin by eliminating first class altogether if you're truly interested in getting rid of class you can purchase.
 
Jul 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM
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... and for the record, when I say "I've seen everything in 1st class," I mean on the way back to coach -- except for the 3-4 times I've had the miles to upgrade, and the one time I was upgraded (I was wearing a dress, btw).
 
Aug 3rd, 2005, 09:12 AM
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Not sure i understand all this. The times I have flown 1st class have been thru freebies or a FC ticket purchase only because I had to be there NOW, and that was all that was available.

I'm most likely to borad in jeans and a sport shirt. No shorts (even I'm offended by my hairy legs). I have never noticed any discrimination toward myself and certainly don't feel imtimidated by someone in a business suit or otherwise snappily dressed. I have worked and traveled like this for 26 years and have seen changes in attire in airports as anywhere else.

Perhaps international first class may be different, but I;m not going to concern myself with proper dress to travel from here to there. I know how to travel and I get it done.

By the way, I kinda like those navel piercings.
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Aug 4th, 2005, 01:44 PM
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US Domestic "First Class" has no class whatsoever so pretty much anything would go.
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Sep 14th, 2005, 02:07 PM
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I would not wear shorts on a first class international flight unless you want to get nasty looks. I have been to Rome and people dress very nice.
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Sep 15th, 2005, 05:05 AM
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You need to remember that those people in First Class are poor. How poor are they you ask? They are so poor they can't afford their own plane.
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Sep 15th, 2005, 05:06 AM
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I've been upgraded three times on BA and once on Qantas. All four times I had on long dress pants and dress shoes.

I've never been upgraded on a U.S. airline. I think they read my posts.
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Sep 15th, 2005, 04:53 PM
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"Fighting discrimination . . . might begin by eliminating first class altogether if you're truly interested in getting rid of class you can purchase."

Class cannot be purchased, alas. Seats on airplanes, even large massaging chairs, do not constitute class but rather a surcharge.
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Sep 18th, 2005, 06:27 PM
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Well said.
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