Boarding US-bound Flight with Expired Green Card
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@Msp1278 - you may, or may not, work for CBP. How would we know?
Since you apparently don't believe the OP when he says he HAS a green card, or me, when I say I HAD a green card, why should we believe you? Or is it just that your reading comprehension is lacking?
Regardless of which branch of DHS the officials belong to, the FIRST thing that happens on arrival in the US, as in other countries, is passport control, i.e. IMMIGRATION. The SECOND thing is CUSTOMS. They are not the same process. The second is called customs because the taxes paid on imported goods over the duty-free limit is called customs (not to be confused with excise, taxes paid on domestic goods).
"it is Customs that has final say as to who is and is not allowed into this country. "
No, it is not. Final jurisdiction resides with an immigration judge working within the Executive Office for Immigration Review.
Since you apparently don't believe the OP when he says he HAS a green card, or me, when I say I HAD a green card, why should we believe you? Or is it just that your reading comprehension is lacking?
Regardless of which branch of DHS the officials belong to, the FIRST thing that happens on arrival in the US, as in other countries, is passport control, i.e. IMMIGRATION. The SECOND thing is CUSTOMS. They are not the same process. The second is called customs because the taxes paid on imported goods over the duty-free limit is called customs (not to be confused with excise, taxes paid on domestic goods).
"it is Customs that has final say as to who is and is not allowed into this country. "
No, it is not. Final jurisdiction resides with an immigration judge working within the Executive Office for Immigration Review.
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The discussion is whether or not the OP can/should travel on an expired green card and the answer is still no. Just because their card is expired it does not mean they are no longer an LPR. The only way they'd see a judge is if they are put into proceedings. Carrying an expired card does not put you in front of a judge. Do you realize/understand how people are put in front of an IJ? Customs can and will turn people away and make airlines return the people to their countries. They grant the final admission into the country.
The OP needs to go to their local USCIS office and request a stamp in their passport. Some offices allow walk-ins. That is why I suggested checking the website USCIS.gov multiple a day for appointments. I never stated the OP doesn't have a card, to your horrid dismay, I do read and comprehend, that's exactly why I am telling them the steps to take to obtain an I551 stamp. If you want to act like a keyboard warrior and attack like you're on Facebook, maybe you need to go back to Facebook.
The OP needs to go to their local USCIS office and request a stamp in their passport. Some offices allow walk-ins. That is why I suggested checking the website USCIS.gov multiple a day for appointments. I never stated the OP doesn't have a card, to your horrid dismay, I do read and comprehend, that's exactly why I am telling them the steps to take to obtain an I551 stamp. If you want to act like a keyboard warrior and attack like you're on Facebook, maybe you need to go back to Facebook.
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"But just ignore the person who actually works for the agency, because obviously people who don't work immigration and have never held a green card but have a profile here have much more power and knowledge."
Implication - no-one posting here has a green card. And I notice you say "working immigration" not "working customs".
"maybe you need to go back to Facebook.'
I am happy to be able to say I have never, ever had a FB account. On the other hand, I have been posting on this site for over a decade.
"The OP needs to go to their local USCIS office and request a stamp in their passport. Some offices allow walk-ins. That is why I suggested checking the website USCIS.gov multiple a day for appointments"
This sounds like good info, but there is nothing on that page about getting your passport stamped. Maybe you can provide a more specific link.
Implication - no-one posting here has a green card. And I notice you say "working immigration" not "working customs".
"maybe you need to go back to Facebook.'
I am happy to be able to say I have never, ever had a FB account. On the other hand, I have been posting on this site for over a decade.
"The OP needs to go to their local USCIS office and request a stamp in their passport. Some offices allow walk-ins. That is why I suggested checking the website USCIS.gov multiple a day for appointments"
This sounds like good info, but there is nothing on that page about getting your passport stamped. Maybe you can provide a more specific link.
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Fine call the 1-800 number, they'll tell you to make an appointment and to go in with your passport to receive an i551 stamp!!! The op clearly states they have a card, you can imply all you want. And I work for Immigration not Customs, however I am very well aware of how customs works and they can and will deny entry into the United States.
OP please check USCIS daily for available appointments. When you get your appointment please take your passport, i90 receipt, travel itinerary, and your card with you. If you have had your biometrics done and they placed a sticker on the back that is your extension and you will not need a stamp.
OP please check USCIS daily for available appointments. When you get your appointment please take your passport, i90 receipt, travel itinerary, and your card with you. If you have had your biometrics done and they placed a sticker on the back that is your extension and you will not need a stamp.
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Msp1278 - You've tried hard to be helpful here, although you needn't scorn additional (not instead-of) suggestions. I didn't promise that the Rep definitely would be helpful, but since I saw it work in a number of cases, I see no reason to rule it out, out of hand.
That said, I hope OP will check back and tell us what actually happens with this situation - assuming she/he didn't abandon the site altogether because of the tone.
That said, I hope OP will check back and tell us what actually happens with this situation - assuming she/he didn't abandon the site altogether because of the tone.
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I'm not going to get into details but MSP1278 may be confusing the roles of several Homeland Security arms, each of which provide immigration services.
Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) seems to be the policy and processing arm where visas are issues and managed among other paper pushing activities.
At airports, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) provides BOTH immigration and customs services. These functions used to be provided by separate departments but have been combined. The two functions are handled completely separately at airports with "immigration" being the first station travelers proceed through. This immigration function allows or denies entry into the US and formally is border protection. Basically it enforces CIS policies. I believe the staffs of these two functions are with separate personnel who are not interchangeable (unless trained for both).
So BOTH the travellers here (who are referring to the Immigration sub-department of CBP) and MSP (referring to the main function of CIS and, as typical of government staff, is not aware of other agencies and sub-agencies) appear to be correct.
Let's move on.
So everyone is correct.
Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) seems to be the policy and processing arm where visas are issues and managed among other paper pushing activities.
At airports, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) provides BOTH immigration and customs services. These functions used to be provided by separate departments but have been combined. The two functions are handled completely separately at airports with "immigration" being the first station travelers proceed through. This immigration function allows or denies entry into the US and formally is border protection. Basically it enforces CIS policies. I believe the staffs of these two functions are with separate personnel who are not interchangeable (unless trained for both).
So BOTH the travellers here (who are referring to the Immigration sub-department of CBP) and MSP (referring to the main function of CIS and, as typical of government staff, is not aware of other agencies and sub-agencies) appear to be correct.
Let's move on.
So everyone is correct.