Hoping to use miles to upgrade to business class on Air France to Paris next July. There is some availability now for award upgrades (I'm using Delta miles so the seats have been released to Skymiles but not yet to Flying Blue). However, I see that not all their intercontinental business class seats have been reconfigured to flat bed yet. I do not want the old angle flat seats. I would like the flat bed seats. I called the airline but they are no help. I looked at Seat guru but none of the flights are in the herringbone pattern that you usually see with flat bed seats. Anyone have experience flying business on Air Feance to Paris recently? If so, which flight? I'm in the
Midwest, so I can connect from JFK or Detroit most easily. There is great availability from Dulles and Toronto but looks like it might be angle flat?

If I can't get the flat bed seats with miles, should I go with angle flat? Or should I shell out the money and buy the business class seats outright on another airline like Delta or American I'm traveling with my husband and 2 young kids, so we would need 4 seats. If it were just me, I would buy economy. But I would really like my kids to get some sleep on the way to Paris, so I need to make sure the business seats are flat beds. Help!

I am headed from Houston to Paris April 2015 and just went through the same exercise. I booked Air France through Delta using AMEX points. 125k each business class which was cheap. My brother is taking the same flight this October and is getting the angled -- old style -- business class. In January, AF is showing the new lie flat seats from Houston. As you know New York has the lie flat seats.

I just tried to Google Air France schedule for the new seats. The schedule is out there but I picked up a virus just now -- so am scared to keeping looking for that site.

Pick your airport you want to depart from and go to Delta website. Try different acceptable airports with the different dates and it will show up. I also cannot find any seat rating site showing the new configuration.

We like bulkhead. Our flight is 4 category and your bulkhead is next to first class. I am trying to find out if meal orders are taken by Air France from the first row going back or back row going forward. My wife is picky about getting her beef.

Thanks, Philip! Are you taking children?

Actually, our children are grown. Although, I took oldest daughter with me to Japan when my wife refused to make that trip. I wanted to fly Singapore Airlines A380 business class.

I think that's on Air France - Boeing 777-200ER (772) Three Class V2

for further information please refer to

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air..._777-200_C.php

Thanks, eAbbasi. I'm hoping all the 777s will have flat bed seats by next summer, but not sure if I should take the chance that they're not.

The Air France planes currently undergoing the conversions are: B777-300 296 seats - 4 classes. Not aware of any other planes in their fleet currently undergoing these upgrades. Others to follow. I am very surprised that -- it appears -- as if none of the seat review sites are showing the new layout. Obviously, it does show when you are shopping for tickets/seats directly on Air France USA.

Great- thank you, Philip!