Sabi Sabi Selati or Mala Mala Main?
Nov 11th, 2010 | 02:46 PM
#21
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Conde Nast.
As I said in another recent thread here, Conde Nast lost all credibility with me when I used their recommendation for a safari camp in 2005, Khwai River Lodge. I think they do rate game viewing and give it the same, or less, scale weighting as the camp's wine list
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Spotters/trackers help, I've seen it many times. Especially when they take a portable radio and walk off through the bush. (Sometimes much to the worry of the guests). Seen them do this often and find the game objective. And they are also very helpful when the guide/driver is new to the area. Seen this often also. But at like MM where they have what, 7?, vehicles out with radios, the tracker is not so important. So, answer is IMHO - it depends
regards - tom
ps - is there difference between IMO and IMHO?
As I said in another recent thread here, Conde Nast lost all credibility with me when I used their recommendation for a safari camp in 2005, Khwai River Lodge. I think they do rate game viewing and give it the same, or less, scale weighting as the camp's wine list
.Spotters/trackers help, I've seen it many times. Especially when they take a portable radio and walk off through the bush. (Sometimes much to the worry of the guests). Seen them do this often and find the game objective. And they are also very helpful when the guide/driver is new to the area. Seen this often also. But at like MM where they have what, 7?, vehicles out with radios, the tracker is not so important. So, answer is IMHO - it depends
regards - tom
ps - is there difference between IMO and IMHO?
Nov 11th, 2010 | 03:41 PM
#22
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Tanky - Wow, good to hear from you again. Fortunately, I don't need to justify why MalaMala does not have trackers. That seems like something their marketing people need to do. I do need to explain to clients the differences between camps that do and do not have trackers. Going back a few comments, can you provide more details about your night drives with trackers at MalaMala?
Yip - I take Conde Nast with a grain of salt (as previously mentioned).
Tom - The version IMHO is a bit more emphatic than IMO I suppose.
Craig Beal - owner - Travel Beyond
Yip - I take Conde Nast with a grain of salt (as previously mentioned).
Tom - The version IMHO is a bit more emphatic than IMO I suppose.
Craig Beal - owner - Travel Beyond
Nov 12th, 2010 | 01:25 AM
#23
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Hi Craig
Up until MM stopped using trackers a few years ago, I have always had trackers on night drives though I have only being going there since September 2001. The only place where trackers are usually there and once, when our tracker was given a choice if he wanted to join us one evening after dinner, was a leopard specialist drive at Londo! And what a surprise, he choose not to go on a gamedrive!
I have had quiet gamedrives with trackers and without - on a really windy day for example, a lot of game is hard to find regardless of having a tracker. Having no tracker at MM has really made minimal difference to my gameviewing, which is still exceptional!
Kind regards
Kaye
Up until MM stopped using trackers a few years ago, I have always had trackers on night drives though I have only being going there since September 2001. The only place where trackers are usually there and once, when our tracker was given a choice if he wanted to join us one evening after dinner, was a leopard specialist drive at Londo! And what a surprise, he choose not to go on a gamedrive!
I have had quiet gamedrives with trackers and without - on a really windy day for example, a lot of game is hard to find regardless of having a tracker. Having no tracker at MM has really made minimal difference to my gameviewing, which is still exceptional!
Kind regards
Kaye
Nov 12th, 2010 | 01:15 PM
#24
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KayeN,
From my understanding, the trackers at MalaMala could not be made to go after sunset as it was a violation of the union contract. Many of them chose to go out after dark especially if they had repeat guests or if they knew they would get a fat tip.
Hope this helps.
Off to Morocco... Ciao.
Craig Beal - owner - Travel Beyond
From my understanding, the trackers at MalaMala could not be made to go after sunset as it was a violation of the union contract. Many of them chose to go out after dark especially if they had repeat guests or if they knew they would get a fat tip.
Hope this helps.
Off to Morocco... Ciao.
Craig Beal - owner - Travel Beyond
Mar 21st, 2011 | 05:54 PM
#27
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Some of you have seen my opinions about about Mala Mala in the past. I will not go into any details here about my reasons for not liking Mala which are many. I believe that Mala Mala may indeed have the best game viewing and they may have great rangers, however I will never set foot on their property as a paid guest. If anyone wants to know why, they contact me directly via Fodors. There are been long contentious posts about this subject here on Fodors and I do not want to drag down this thread.
Mike
Mike
Mar 21st, 2011 | 08:32 PM
#28
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rtys- Yes, tip the staff. This is my standard response:
Re tipping. I always pay cash (can't guarantee the right people will get it if paid by CC) in US or preferred in Rand. I overtip - I used to rely on tips. I do 20 (min) for guide, 10-15 tracker and same for housekeeping, pp/pn. We (DH and I) have been the only people in a vehicle by chance, so we give a little extra. I give all tips in a thank you note and give personally after our last game drive. Housekeeping I leave note in room before final game drive. When figuring the budget, I add 10-20% for tips. I also lose a bit in conversion, as I multiply USD by 7 or whatever is the closest number at the time, and round up to the nearest 20 Rand. If I can afford to be there, I can afford to overtip by a few dollars.
You're going to love it! Please tell us all about it when you return.
Re tipping. I always pay cash (can't guarantee the right people will get it if paid by CC) in US or preferred in Rand. I overtip - I used to rely on tips. I do 20 (min) for guide, 10-15 tracker and same for housekeeping, pp/pn. We (DH and I) have been the only people in a vehicle by chance, so we give a little extra. I give all tips in a thank you note and give personally after our last game drive. Housekeeping I leave note in room before final game drive. When figuring the budget, I add 10-20% for tips. I also lose a bit in conversion, as I multiply USD by 7 or whatever is the closest number at the time, and round up to the nearest 20 Rand. If I can afford to be there, I can afford to overtip by a few dollars.
You're going to love it! Please tell us all about it when you return.
Mar 22nd, 2011 | 09:13 AM
#29
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OK. My two cents. Sabi Sabi if you have to choose from these two. Honestly tho, do not do it. We were in that region this summer, and stayed at Rattay's on Mala Mala (http://www.safariguideafrica.com/rat...n-malamala.php)
It beats MalaMala main and sable hands down.
Hope I did not throw a spanner in the works.
It beats MalaMala main and sable hands down.
Hope I did not throw a spanner in the works.
Mar 22nd, 2011 | 10:42 AM
#31
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Rattray's isn't twice the cost, though. It is 50% more expensive, which buys you:
no kids in camp under 16 years old
max 4 people per vehicle (versus 6)
amazing accommodations, including private plunge pool
elevated dining menu
more flexibility with dining times and other services
no kids in camp under 16 years old
max 4 people per vehicle (versus 6)
amazing accommodations, including private plunge pool
elevated dining menu
more flexibility with dining times and other services
