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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 07:49 PM
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Do you know San Francisco?

I just found out that one of our children is being transferred to California. There is the possibility to live anywhere in the San Francisco area. Since I volunteered to help find a place to live, can anyone help with suggestions? Where would be a good place for a single twenty-something to live? I am not familiar with the area at all and this has come as a big surprise! I know the city itself is very expensive, but is there some place that is not San Fran proper that is appealing for that age group? Help!
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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 07:57 PM
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First (and probably most important) question - where will he/she be working?
 
Old Nov 27th, 2007, 07:59 PM
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Impossible to really give useful advice/suggestions w/o knowing 1) Where will s/he be working, and 2) what is the housing budget.
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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 08:00 PM
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was posting the same time as dmlove . . . .
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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 08:06 PM
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He will be working out of a home office, so he can be very flexible with location in the Bay Area. He should have fairly easy access to the airport. He will be making a nice salary for a 25 year old, but I can't be very specific with exact rental budget for him. I know it is important that he be able to have a social life, so no cabins in the woods!
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Old Nov 27th, 2007, 09:10 PM
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I don't know how anyone can give any help rbnwdln without more information. A cabin in the woods won't be a big possibility I wouldn't think however.

"Close to the airport" means I assume SFO..the San Francisco airport. There is also the Oakland airport and the San Jose airport.

The SF/Bay Area is expensive. I have a stepgrandson that lives south of SF..a university graduate. He rents a house that he shares with three other roommates, the only way they can afford decent housing.

A lot of younger people I know love San Jose. But housing is not inexpensive there either.

More details would be needed I would think, such as what he/she will have budgeted for housing before anyone can help you. Best wishes to your child.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 03:47 AM
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Sorry that I can't provide more details. The transfer isn't even finalized. I guess what I'm looking for is names of places that would be appealing to people his age. I know nothing about San Francisco, other than a few trips there and to Napa/Sonoma, so just going out there and driving around California trying to find him an apartment is what I am trying to avoid. He can live basically anywhere in the Bay area, as I have said. He needs access to an airport, any decent airport, because his job involves travel. He currently pays $1000 per month for his apartment in the Midwest, but he will be able to afford more in SF, but not crazy more. Does this help? Thanks!!!!
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 06:28 AM
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Wow - he's going to have a great time! In his 20's, no commute issues, and a decent job. He's going to the best place in the whole country for his circumstances, in my biased opinion! (And as an Air Force kid, I've lived in most areas of the country and been to all the major US cities many times, so I have at least some data upon which to base my opinon.) ;->

Of course the SF Bay Area is expensive (there's a reason it's expensive - many people want to live here), but plenty of other people manage, even without your son's advantages, so he can too.

In his shoes, I'd live either in San Francisco itself or in Berkeley/ north Oakland. Berkeley has slightly better weather, if that's a concern.

(We live in Sonoma County now, but we lived in Berkeley for years. My husband currently works in San Francisco. We have two kids in college, so just a little younger than your son. DS is a senior at UC Berkeley and already moaning about not wanting to leave, and DD is a sophomore in San Francisco - she is so in love with SF that the junior year she is planning in Paris next year is paling by comparison.)

UC Berkeley has about 10,000 graduate students - so there are plenty of bright, interesting people your son's age around. The Rockridge area of north Oakland (on the Berkeley border) is also a great place for 20-something professional people.

We have also lived in Palo Alto (on the peninsula) and I've worked in the San Jose area. The peninsula and SJ are more "suburban" in feel generally - although SJ is an interesting town. There are lots of 20 somethings - mostly employed in Silicon Valley firms - but the ones I know would rather live in SF or Berkeley if commuting to jobs was not an issue. (For example, even the grad students I know at Stanford say they would prefer Berkeley or SF as a place to live/socialize.)

I will be glad to bore you with further details about the area. Just ask!

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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 06:34 AM
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Another question in considering a convenient location to live: What is his destination when he flies from the Bay Area? For example, if he flies to Europe, living near SFO may be more convenient than living near San Jose or Oakland.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 08:17 AM
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Also, will he have a car? Some more affordable housing that's on the outskirts of the city, but a car would be helpful for when he wants to go in and hang out.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 08:26 AM
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I think a twenty-something would enjoy living in Berkeley. There are so many people in that age group living there, including undergrad and graduate students. Lots of choices for housing, but might be easier to find in the months before school starts. I'm not sure about that, though. It's probably a year-round market in any event.

Our daughter recently rented the upstairs flat in a very nice renovated Victorian in south Berkeley. It has four bedrooms, two baths, two parking spaces off-street, washer/dryer, new appliances, lots of free street parking, and it rents for $3000/month plus utilities. Her employer had told them to expect to pay anywhere from $800 to $1200/month apiece, depending.

The Oakland airport is one of my favorites, because it's small and easy to use. We always fly in and out on Southwest Air.

There's so much to do in that region, from visiting S.F. to hiking in the Berkeley hills, to shopping, visiting Napa, etc.
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I have lived in San Jose my whole life. I agree with NorCalif who gave lots of good advice. I think your son would enjoy living "in the city" San Francisco. If that's where he chooses you might want to research the different districts (the Presido, the Mission, the Marina, the Embarcadero, etc.). For example, I know that a lot of young people enjoy the Marina area (near Chestnut Street) but I believe it is a more expensive there. If he does not have a car then living in the City would be ideal due to the public transportation and the fact that it's a walking City.

Good luck to your son and happy researching.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 09:43 AM
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My son moved out there from the midwest a couple of years ago. He lives in Marin County (which is expensive, but he isn't paying too much more than your son is now for a nice condo in Novato). He moved out there because his job was located there and most of his early socializing was done through work. He has changed companies so is now looking at the south bay area. Also, wants to be closer to good public transportation (like Bart). From what I understand, that would probably be more a consideration than living close to an airport. He found his apartment on Craigslist.

With cell phones and email, we are in contact with him as much as our other children still left in our area. And it gives us a great reason to go there!
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 10:38 AM
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Another vote for SF or Berkeley. San Jose is nice (where I live) and there is a decent amount going on, but SF and Berkeley are more interesting.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 11:50 AM
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I know Berkeley and some areas of Oakland are good for youngsters.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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If I were your son, I'd try hard to find a place to live in the City. My daughter lived in Burlingame in a 1 bedroom apt. and paid $1300. You can't get much closer to the airport and Burlingame has a nice little downtown with cafes and bars. It's also a quick walk to CalTrain.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM
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Has he looked at Craig's list?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 03:17 PM
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My kids have found ALL of their apartments on cragslist. I remember when in 2002 my daughter told me she found an apt. in New York on craigslist. I asked her who this Craig was and why was he making a list and was he trustworthy!!!! Hahahaha. She and our son-in-law and our son have found their apts. exclusively on craigslist. BUT in this case I wanted some feedback from area people before he even looked. I've looked at craiglist today and it looks like most of the apartments are in a place called Cupertino! Where the heck is that?? Anyway, thanks for your help and I will steer him to Berkeley and other places mentioned. Norcalif, I may call on you again! Maybe even in person!!!!! Moms gotta stick together even if the kids are 25. Another consideration is that he wants to try and get an MBA while he is in California since he will not have to travel as much as he did with his previous job. Oy!
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 03:17 PM
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I'd agree with grasshopper. I know several young people living in SF right now and they wouldn't live anywhere else in the Bay Area. SF has so much to offer and there are lots of safe areas where your son could get an apartment for slightly more than what he is paying now, nothing fancy.

He also doesn't need a car. If he finds something with convenient public transportation, he can take BART to SFO.
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 03:29 PM
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I was in SFO over Thanksgiving and we stayed with friends in the Noe Valley area -

My daughter is in her 30's and it seems like an area she would love
you can walk to restaurants and trendy shops/ BART station not far

Close to the downtown/ Market St area
Short drive to the Chestnut St and Union St shopping areas - of course I have no idea what rents would be like in that area -

but take a look and see what you can find
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