Dinner in San Francisco
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San Francisco is a very small city. We've stayed at the Nikko many times. Unless you know your way around, hop in a cab and go to a restaurant (what type of cuisine?) or walk up to Le Colonial -fabulous French-Southeast Asian cuisine. Make a reservation because it is very popular. Oh, my point with taking a cab is that the Nikko is near the border of the Tenderloin and you don't want to wander into that neighborhood during the day, let alone at night.
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Hi jaguar, the Hotel Nikko is on Mason St., by O'Farrell, I can't imagine anyone having a problem walking from there or to there during the day time! When it is dark I think it depends on whether you you are alone (which obviously you will not be since you said "we're") and on how use to cities you are. And of course how far you are from your hotel after enjoying a wonderful dinner in one of the SF restaurants.
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I agree with Farallon. The back room is fabulous. I also snicker at the Nikko being in a "dangerous area". The Hilton is in the next block over and that one IS on the "edge of the Tenderloin". Druggies don't hang around either hotel. You need to go towards Market Street on Jones or Taylor to get into it. sheesh.
We have stayed at the Nikko many many times.
We have stayed at the Nikko many many times.
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What are you looking for? Farallons is exquisite but also very expensive. Italian? Romantic? San Franciscoish? French? And what day of the week are you arriving on?
My favorite area of the City is Beldon Lane. There are a couple of French restaurants, seafood, Spanish in an outdoor setting.
http://www.belden-place.com/
Course you will have to walk right by Scalas to get there.
Be sure to check out the Fodors San Francisco Restaurant recs.
My favorite area of the City is Beldon Lane. There are a couple of French restaurants, seafood, Spanish in an outdoor setting.
http://www.belden-place.com/
Course you will have to walk right by Scalas to get there.
Be sure to check out the Fodors San Francisco Restaurant recs.
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Dear jaguar7.....
The Nikko's location puts you in fine form to either walk or take any kind of transport a short way to dine. Remember that Powell Street (one block to the east) paralells Mason and is the safer option for walking to or from Market Street at night.
Farmerbrown
Mason and Market
Yes, this is on the edge of the Tenderloin, but I have not had problems in the neighborhood, particularly in the season where it's still light in the evening. Farmerbrown has gotten rave reviews for its organic, seasonally based cuisine. Sort of new-age soul food, with much local produce used. I don't drink hard liquor, but my friends enjoy the watermelon(!) magaritas. There is a different gumbo several times a week.
Bar Crudo
A tiny, tiny place on Bush Street above the Stockton Street Tunnel. The best way to find it is to seek its next door neighbor, the Tunnel Top Bar. "Crudo" in the name refers to the raw seafood which is the restaurant's specialty. There are a few tables and a teensy second floor loft, although my visits have always found me sitting at the bar. Be sure to order the chowder, which is based on whatever the best of the catch is that day. Terrific wine and beer list for such a small place.
Those are my easy-walking distance suggestions for the 'hood.
If you enlighten us as to your preferences, I would be happy to offer some more suggestions that might be a short cab or trolley ride away.
The Nikko's location puts you in fine form to either walk or take any kind of transport a short way to dine. Remember that Powell Street (one block to the east) paralells Mason and is the safer option for walking to or from Market Street at night.
Farmerbrown
Mason and Market
Yes, this is on the edge of the Tenderloin, but I have not had problems in the neighborhood, particularly in the season where it's still light in the evening. Farmerbrown has gotten rave reviews for its organic, seasonally based cuisine. Sort of new-age soul food, with much local produce used. I don't drink hard liquor, but my friends enjoy the watermelon(!) magaritas. There is a different gumbo several times a week.
Bar Crudo
A tiny, tiny place on Bush Street above the Stockton Street Tunnel. The best way to find it is to seek its next door neighbor, the Tunnel Top Bar. "Crudo" in the name refers to the raw seafood which is the restaurant's specialty. There are a few tables and a teensy second floor loft, although my visits have always found me sitting at the bar. Be sure to order the chowder, which is based on whatever the best of the catch is that day. Terrific wine and beer list for such a small place.
Those are my easy-walking distance suggestions for the 'hood.
If you enlighten us as to your preferences, I would be happy to offer some more suggestions that might be a short cab or trolley ride away.
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Other choices in the area:
Cortez - Small plates
Restaurant Michael Mina - fancier and $$$
Fifth Floor (in Palomar Hotel) - also $$$
Canteen
I second Farmer Brown (reasonable)
I like Le Colonial too - however, it is a chain, so if you've been to the NY and Chicago locations, it's exactly the same. The upstairs has a nice bar/lounge with good music.
I've heard mixed reviews about Farallon, but I've never been.
Cortez - Small plates
Restaurant Michael Mina - fancier and $$$
Fifth Floor (in Palomar Hotel) - also $$$
Canteen
I second Farmer Brown (reasonable)
I like Le Colonial too - however, it is a chain, so if you've been to the NY and Chicago locations, it's exactly the same. The upstairs has a nice bar/lounge with good music.
I've heard mixed reviews about Farallon, but I've never been.
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I second the suggestion on Cortez.
Very good selection of small plates dishes (order the crab cakes if available). It's quite a hip place and ambiance, plus the wait staff looks good.
I also would go with Restaurant Michael Mina if price is not an issue. The tasting menu is always very good.
The only slight issue is that the bill can add up if you don't watch your orders.
Very good selection of small plates dishes (order the crab cakes if available). It's quite a hip place and ambiance, plus the wait staff looks good.
I also would go with Restaurant Michael Mina if price is not an issue. The tasting menu is always very good.
The only slight issue is that the bill can add up if you don't watch your orders.
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"The only slight issue is that the bill can add up if you don't watch your orders. "
That was in reference to Cortez (and not Michael Mina, where the bill is always going to be high no matter what).
That was in reference to Cortez (and not Michael Mina, where the bill is always going to be high no matter what).
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Third vote for the Cortez. In the Adagio Hotel on Geary Street. About three blocks walk from the Nikko. We order several small plates and share...the number of plates depending upon how many of us there are.
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